Episode 59 - Live event photography & Videography Tips and Tricks

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currently recovering from yesterday's early early morning you and

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me both I told you I was I was quite wrecked when I got home yesterday yeah had a few extracurriculars after our

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curricular I was fatigued I got home and then we got dab bur Daylight Savings Time sucks yeah it's it's so it's so

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depressing on so many different levels to to literally have Darkness at 5:30 yeah which I think it's a little closer

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to 6:00 p.m. right now but but it's going to get shorter it'll soon be 5:30 I think the shortest day of the year is what December 27th yeah whatever the

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winter solstice I believe is uh but uh yeah it the daylight savings time not a

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fan just not a fan I understand again only so many hours of sunlight in the

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day overall did you have a fun trip I did have we've not been on a like a day adventure in a while I thought you was fixing a say date we've definitely not

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been on a date in a while so I guess you consider that our day date I would say ever um I've been on a couple dates I'm

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married Bro uh yeah but we're also married in business too like we're and we're best friends so that's true I did

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see I saw a hilarious a hilarious Tik Tok skit on that specific thing so it

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was funny because and I didn't mean to talk about this but I mean this is where the this is where the conversation LED so here we go this is where we are

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buckle up it was really funny it was a really well done skit too um it reminded

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me of the ubeta skits like those dudes those dudes do a really good job every midwesterner does the knee slap to

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leave this one was when my when the wife meets the work wife yes and they had a

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whole skit so like uh I guess the the the actual wife was for some reason at

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the the place of of employment with the husband and the work wife showed up and

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they gave like some goofy high five or something the work wife says now where's

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my normal morning greeting and so they kiss oh my gosh so the kiss and the

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wife's like uh what did you what is this what did you just do this is my work wife babe I promise you me and Jared do

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not kiss no but it was funny because like they continued on and the plot thickened and deepened and and it was

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literally like no we legitimately got married this is my work wife like I have

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you know and it was just it was it was a really funny skit what's hilarious is anytime you and I are texting or

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communicating my wife Sarah she she literally will look at me she say you texting your boyfriend Jared again I'm

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like yes yes I am well you're not a big texter so I'm not a big texter so for me

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that means you're special I guess that means it's a little something you're a little special I think you're special but I did I had a good date with you

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yesterday uh We've not been on a day trip in a while so listen I am looking forward to we did not help Cole skip

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school either listen I'm not I'm not involved in that we had an educational day hey we did was nighted it was to the

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Cades Co he was uh he was inducted into the Junior Rangers right he's a junior Cades Cove National Park R he took the

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oath and everything I think I have a video of that maybe yeah you've got a video of it I've got a video of it um I

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I'm well this is funny he he wanted to wear his badge in the basketball practice he showed his papa he showed

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his grandpa like he he's assuming that role so much to the tune that as we were leaving my in-laws for supper he said

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Dad are you going to take me to work in the morning I like what do you mean I wasn't thinking I was tired yeah I was

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like he's got rangering to do yeah I was like no you're going to school he's like no I got to go to work he's like Ranger Dave told me I got to come to work it's

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true I was like oh Ranger daveg junior Ranger he did take an oath so that was cool that's awesome though that that

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they do that for the kids I think it was a lot of fun parents take your kids outside take them to National Park

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listen they'll love it trust me they listen specifically take him to Kate's Cove you you ain't got a you ain't got a

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lick of sale signal no which is where man I I thrive in that environment I was

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listen I personally was a little on edge simp well you're a Tik tocker you're a viral wor about talk or anything like

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that screw that that's not what I'm talking about what I was concerned about was getting feedback from my wife for a

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oh yeah your car door my car door I told my wife once I got home I said babe thank you so much yes for going and

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easing my mind mhm of course I didn't find out I didn't find out till we got all the way back into Gatlinburg because

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it first LTE I could get but like once I found out that my car was in fact locked

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I told my wife once I got home I said thank you so much for doing that that was awesome because I truly could not as

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like normally I can visually remember like I can visually remember I can make the ne like yes I I hit the lock button

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all as well I said I got to the so I got so far into second guess on myself yesterday that I honestly was not even

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sure that I had closed the driver door because I remember getting stuff out of the

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passenger door while the the driver door was so I had that mental image of the driver door being open I cannot remember

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closing the door all that to say evidently I did in fact close it did do that you did do that and I evidently did

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in fact lock it and as a viral Tik tocker your subscribers and followers and lovers of everything Jarry Collins

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are still there and you've been able to communicate with them now listen speaking of that these people maybe

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to Cousin Eddie because you know Christmas is coming up we got that Christmas vacation don't trust people who had who AR quoting Christmas

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vacation already in their life that's I'll just ask ask you if it's

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full I just you don't know what we're talking about go watch the movie I crack up so hard when he says CLK if you would

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just get yourself something real nice after carus said we're gonna buy you a

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me real quick though before before we dive into today's topic before we get to the me taters I I find the dichotomy of

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you and me hilarious because you're freaking out about the door possibly being locked or unlocked Meanwhile your

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buddy over here left a camera on the top of the car as we're driving around the par that camera right there that camera

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right there was left on the top of my Subaru not in the not in the not in the gear basket either not in the gear

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basket you know the basket mostly is there for aesthetic purposes I'll be honest with you it carries boxes every now and then listen it would have held

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that camera a lot better than the D burn slick metal on the hood yeah like I said just just the you know the The Duality

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want to go uh want to go explore that blue collar L adds a little Pizzazz little spice little contrast little

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meet and taters jar get us the meet and taters we got a fun one today because we're fresh off of one of these yes

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we're going to talk about Essentials of Live Events and specifically we're talking about like

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concerts we're talking about speaking engagements uh and we're going to kind of hit this from two angles right we're going to talk about first off why you

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should yes hire uh media teams for your events as a business own as a business

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owner or someone who's hosting an event this is the reason why you should um and kind of rank those in order of

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importance right and then the second half of the video and and we'll have to throw a time stamp here uh you can skip

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to this if you are a photographer or videographer get into either wants to get into or maybe you've got your first

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one coming up and you're kind of wanting some tips we're going to start sharing some tips hopefully this will help calm the nerves yeah uh for the second half

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of the episode so we'll put the time stamp you can go aead and Skip ahead there if that's what you're into but we're going to start with again why you

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should hire uh a media team to cover uh your event yes and I'm going to even and

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we only cover like two of these things uh right off the bat and I'll be honest with you it's not the first two so like

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this this comes from a place of honesty here I'm going to I'm going to rank these in priorities yeah I was going to say we're going to rank them in order of

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importance and we are not the first two so we may ranking ourselves out of a job but that's okay that's okay I'd rather

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be honest with you having worked a few of these now I know the importance of these yes right so like if you if you

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are putting on an event uh after you get your event space locked down you're going to want to

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start looking at uh Services uh the first thing that I think you should look at once you've got your event space

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locked down is a DJ absolutely someone who can handle your spoken word yes with

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speakers with microphones your audio get all of that taken care of now now

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sometimes like at hotels and stuff like that they'll cover that for you they have that built in they have that as a fee it may be worth it trust me having a

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good DJ because if you've ever been to an event where the PA system was garbage or did not exist how hard is it to

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understand the person like it's just not a good experience for the people in the audience well or even a good system was just mismanaged because the right person

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wasn't behind the the knobs right hiring a DJ or some sort of audio expert to

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handle the audio side of your of your event yeah that's that's that's like

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number one for me well again so if you can't afford anything else DJ get the DJ and that goes even further than the than

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the spoken word I'm going to give a shout out to my my my dog Mr Darcy from strong mom um he held the fort down for

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the most recent strong Momoa not only in the spoken word did a fantastic job there but Darcy kept the mood and The

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Vibes yep all the intermissions he was playing music all those things that's all part of the experience that goes so

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boom experience so unnoticed he made it an experience because he he had us peeking on the highs but he also had us

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coming down a little lower when we needed to be a little lower it reminds me it reminds me of I'm going to

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describe this very poorly but it reminds me Darcy dog of what my father-in-law says so my father-in-law he sings He

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sings baritone which is a Harmony Part in a blueg grass p in a bluegrass group shout out Eric fillers he said baritone

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is is bar I'm likening a baritone singer

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to the DJ okay I'm I'm following baritone you don't always necessarily

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notice its presence oh I know where you're going with this but you notice its absence that's profound same thing

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with a DJ that's profound if a good DJ you're not going to notice their presence but it's going to make a great

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experience but by George if that DJ wasn't there or by George if that DJ does a bad job you notice it somebody

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write that down that's profound hey there we go second second second on the uh on the list m listen this is how most

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of these events go they're typically spoken presentations right sometimes

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they're like Ted Talks where there may not be visual aid but if there is individual Aid of any kind yes a

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propresenter a PowerPoint whatever you're deciding to build your yeah whatever you're building your your visual aid

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with it would behoove you to oh that's a word have I think I used it

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appropriately yeah it would behoove you to have someone manage those presentations very good point manage

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those presentations because if you are constantly yourself the person on stage who's trying to speak and and present

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properly yeah and also over you're having a fiddle with your slides and oh shoot that's wrong I went too far

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forward like all those things so someone who can help you manage your presentations that's going to help you a lot well it can be someone who's you

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know in your organization that you've designated again going back to strong mom they did a phenomenal job this year they they basically put Jenna in place

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to be the the Pres presentation the presentation Runner um for the show so

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like just designate somebody to do that if you're not gonna even if you're not gonna bring in a professional to do that

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just designate somebody to focus on that right don't try to do it as the stage worker the next two the next two things

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are actually things that we uh that we can help with but you should hire a photographer yes and then a videographer

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so even again if it comes down to to budget like if if we're going in priority one's DJ DJ someone to help

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manage your president presentations maybe you get by with someone internally but you don't want the person on stage having to De with that then you hire a

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photographer and if your budget stops there that's where you stop but if the budget allows that's when you start to

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hire a team for video Yeah and and why do you say team Jared well it's it's it's you can get by with one

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videographer who's just going to do Recaps but it's just really hard to adequately cover one with one with a

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team of one yeah uh it just really is um well unless and to unless you're like super duper experien which it still it's

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difficult yeah it's difficult even as an experience well it's definitely difficult from a speaking event

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perspective you could get by with a one videographer for like a concert could CU they're going to put together they're

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going to put together Montage a montage and and one camera can capture that with with with it's still hand multiple

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though I mean we did well you and I we we split forces the other day um you covered a wedding and and I went and

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covered a birthday party and even at that party there were moments in time where

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I mean I'm I'm a decently experienced event shooter I was like man I I need some backup right now because there's

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some things that I need to go cover yeah that are happening in addition to what's right here needing to be covered at the

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wedding I was at same exact thing happened there were two photographers and they were able to divide and conquer and split up and and adequately cover

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and the whole time I'm sitting here thinking oh shoot there's one of me I can't be with the groomsmen and the

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Bridesmaids but so so a team for video is going to be helpful but I would I would personally put and and again some

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who makes a living from it I would put video at the bottom of the tot it's the biggest luxury the biggest luxury but

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you do all of this you do all of this in my opinion the biggest reason why you should hire these positions out for your

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event is for future growth yes and for future advertisement you're one what

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you're trying to do uh you're sitting there you're like how can we Market this event it doesn't ex it it didn't exist

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until yesterday how can we Market this event you're like oh gosh I wish we had uh I wish we had me Med yeah right I

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wish we had media that we could put in front of people well that is where year two year three year four those things

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come into place because recap here's the thing anything you do like with a photographer videographer that's really helpful for

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the next event absolutely it's advertisement for the next event it doesn't necessar Oran post you can throw it into PID ads you can do whatever you

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want to with it it doesn't necessarily help you for that event right that event that one's a little bit of a leap of faith that one's done right that exists

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but you're putting the work in today so that next one can be bigger better all those things so it's for future growth

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and for future advertisement if you desire for this event to grow in size

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doubly whatever it is your desire is the way the best way to do that maybe you want this event to Branch into different

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areas well there you go have extras have multiples in different cities right so like the best way to do that though is

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basically to create fomo and you create fomo fear of missing out by showing how

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awesome your event was how powerful your event was through various Medias

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mediums photos and videos so that is one of the biggest reasons why I think you should hire out a team to to cover your

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event the bigger reason and the next reason really comes down to and I've personally been on the on much smaller

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scale but like for instance I'm a professional photographer professional uh videographer whatever you want to call it but like my kids birthdays right

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that's an event I would love to have professional photos of those things right I could take them obviously I'm a

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professional but then I'm not present right so like if I'm someone who's putting this event on maybe I'm a speaker maybe I'm not a speaker I'm just

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the person setting it all up in line all the speakers up I don't want to also have the burden of capturing content

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right that can then be used for future growth purposes so that is where this team comes into play well I mean there's

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no reason at all that you should have to remove yourself from the experience even

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as the even as the speaker as the presenter is whatever like there's no reason that you should even have to

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worry about that right you know your your job for that event is to deliver your message whatever that message may

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be your job is not to Market to create content to gather content like your job is to deliver that message and so

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there's no reason at all that you should have to take yourself away from that experience well and and even if you're

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someone who like is a guru at at all things like anytime you wear multiple

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hats you're you're something's going to falter something's sliping something is if you if you take off your producer hat

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and put on content creator hat like well now producing is you know production is is right cuz you're not able to do it

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because you're producing it's a vice versa right it's same thing you need to be able to focus on running the event

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and giving the best event possible leave the media to the people who who you trust to do so um and then the second or

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the last reason that I think you should hire for uh event coverage and Recaps Etc is literally just for our IAL and

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like memory purposes yeah honestly like if if your desire is to have an annual

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meeting of sorts for an infinite or an indefinite amount of time you want to

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look look back on you want to be able to look back at those right um and another benefit that I didn't necessarily

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mention for archival purposes is it gives you a chance to reflect yeah and maybe even improve yeah like it does

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like it gives you a chance to improve you you can rather than having to rely on literally just your brain right youve

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got visual aid to be like you know what yeah I think we can tweak some stuff in the presentation we we need to bring in

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stage lighting you know what I'm saying or maybe you want to change your information from the presentation period

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like maybe you want to work on your message absolutely so it gives you the opportunity to reflect and improve but

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really it's just I think the the bigger benefit we need pyro maybe we do maybe we do um but it's

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just to have that archival like I I I know it's so powerful for people who you

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know rise of a varying speeds of success but they rise uh in success right or

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whatever success is but they rise yeah and uh like think of like a Gary ve or

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something like that right he's now speaking in front of thousands right pry big but at some point he was speaking in

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front of twos he was yes and right and so it's one of those things where not only can you yourself like benefit from

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being able to look back at how far you've came and grown and those things but like it can also serve as like a

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future bit of encouragement for somebody else well and also too I mean it can be it can be a point for case studies like

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if if you have experienced some sort of explosive growth like you can use that in your pitch like this is where I have

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grown from yeah and it's because you have that archival data of video and everything side note if you do need a

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pyrot technic for your next live event we know a guy dang shout out Bradley Dingus there you go well hit me from the

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from the work standpoint so I think that's pretty encompassing for the business owner yeah uh so those are are

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the reasons why you should hire now pivoting into you know kind of the second portion of what we would like to

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chat about today is is more so just like tips yeah maybe you've like I said recently been hired for your first and

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you're trying to prep maybe you're trying to get some tips I'm the guy in the choose your videographer game and I am shooting my first event coverage or

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you know maybe you're somebody who's done multiple these are just again possibly tips that you've not uh that

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you've not thought about these might help you my favorite thing about Event Photography and event videography

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specifically Al and it comes from my it's just my style of photography I love to literally

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just capture what's happening yeah you're a documentarian that's my favorite yep here's the best thing about

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being a photographer or even a videographer an event you can be a documentarian your job is to capture

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yeah you're not posing people you're not having to direct people right none of that pressure if that's not a skill for

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you is on you at all now you've got to perform but your performance comes in the fact or in the facet of finding

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great compositions finding pretty shots and uh just finding the action well and

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a lot of the times especially until you get into like very very large event

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coverage like you're not even crafting quotequote crafting an image like you're not worried about lighting and and you

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know contrast ratios all this all this stuff like you're just capturing what's there now as you move up yeah you know

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you you are going to do a degree of of what we'll call set de or set dressing or bringing external lights in well so

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so I would say and this kind of goes we'll start with gear because that's that's kind of the the thing that a lot

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of us like to nerd about nerd out about but at a minimum if you're a photographer hiring or you've been hired

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to do an event I think you should have two cameras well photographer or videographer I think you should have two cameras absolutely as a photographer I

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would even say have both cameras on you with different lenses right because you're not going to want to be switching lenses you can easily switch we'll talk

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about focal links here in a bit but you can basically have two different cameras to serve two different purposes on you

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at one time you also have a backup in the case of failure also have a backup it's a great thing yes uh if you're a

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videographer again I think from an event person or from an event standpoint if your job is to to do a

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recap you need at least two cameras because you're going to want two different camera angles bare minimum the

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easiest thing to do for an event and this is this is a tried andrue method wide yeah you set up a wide in the

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centered and you can even set right next to it on another tripod the almost the same composition just tighter right it

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gives you a wide and a tight so you got safeties at that point in time you've got a safety you can uh follow with the

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tight the wide is always safe and in focus and you can always cut back to that in your in your recap correct um

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but having two cameras is going to give yourself so much more diversity it's

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going to make your your recap videos more Dynamic yeah but also I mean it's

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just two different camera angles right two angles you got a safety uh with with regards to lenses

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I'm normally a pretty big proponent of primes because they're sharper and they're faster generally yeah generally

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big um but big asterisk here is a big proponent a big case for zoom lenses

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absolutely got to be versatile strictly for the versatility agile mobile you

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don't know what hand you may be dealt with

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with with your time out with your Venue I need to switch from my 85 to my 35

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can't do that can't do that now I guess there's a there's a thought process and you could have two bodies and and have

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two primes on there but you're still only locked at those two F at those two things I would further suggest something

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this is tried and true have one body with 24 to 70 agreed have another body with a 70 to 200 agreed you're going to

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be able to literally cover from 24 mm all the to 200 mm that'll do a lot do a

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lot in the exact same spot and your compositions are going to differ and

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you're going to be able to provide a lot of variety there uh on the video side same thing I think it's so helpful to

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have zoom lenses now if you happen to find a composition on a tripod with a prime lens yeah sure Rock that Rock that

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but if you're any sort of mobile like a c angle right or a third camera angle that is mobile and capturing moments

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yeah having that versatility of of the zoom lens of sorts uh is going to be

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very very helpful I'll give you real life practical right here because again you know we're experienced in this realm um we'll go back to strong mom this year

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one of the things that we were tasked with specifically on the ccam angle was

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we were trying to cover this stage yeah and also crowd interactions during Q&A sessions so it's great that I have a

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7200 at that point in time because I can punch up to our speaker yeah I can come back down if I have an audience member

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near me yep um and get them in the frame I can go all the way across the room to an audience member asking a question

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because I've got that reach with the 7200 um and because it's zoom lens I I can't do that if I'm stuck on a on a 50

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or stuck on an 85 or a 35 n um so there's definitely something to be said for versatility and and what this does

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this is just gravy this makes your client very happy when you give them a variety of different what we'll call

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hero moments oh yeah um I think that's just gravy for any client experience is for you to be able to to cover their

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event like you said in a dynamic way yeah well I mean truly like a ccam a third camera mhm is

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is it's probably the least used angle yeah yeah it it's going to be the gra

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it's going to be the least use angle but it is like that added little like oh yeah I forgot they had a camera over

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there and you just got this beautiful moment with our uh with our participants hugging one another yep that A and B

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didn't get because it's focused on the stage and the Pres so it's this L it's literally the assing on top yeah it's

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great and and from the shooters perspective ccam angle is fun cuz your task would just just finding good

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moments just finding pretty stuff like good comps yeah you get to kind of play around a little

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bit we we'll we'll wrap the gear up uh with with with some general

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statements have multiple SD cards yeah if you're a photographer if you're a videographer whatever you're shooting

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with right have mult because you can have a failure yes um have multiples and back up on site aged

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every event even if it's a three-day event they have intermissions they break for lunch they break for this they break

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for that this is when you need to either yourself or have someone on your team hump it over to a laptop where you've

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got a backup setup and dump and dump dump footage dump footage photos you know at that point you've got it in two

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places uh so you're just you're just being a good Steward of what you've been asked capture of the data uh and if

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you're a video person you're a data daddy this happen this doesn't really PR you're a data Mama whatever you are uh

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this doesn't necessarily change of photographers it's more so for videographers but have yourself an audio

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backup yeah or a couple or a couple audio backups the more I'm I'm a big proponent of backups I'm actually

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probably a bit anal with some of these things very it guy so it's be expected have yourself an audio backup maybe

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that's as simple as you know if if you've got those um if you got any of those Wireless Solutions yeah this I've

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seen it it we it it it it works it may be it may be a bit goofy to look at

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dude Gaff tape that thing to the microphone seriously because you're G

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well just tell them to hold it to the underside the whole time nobody will see it like it's going to be in proximity yeah you're going to get it and it might

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not be your primary because you're going to hopefully have a good line out from your DJ right that's that's going to be which is very important make sure you

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get a line out from the DJ and even if you just have ask nicely don't like give me that line out well

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yeah don't don't demand it and also don't be this person because I just the the DJ that I was with at the past

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wedding he said uh yeah uh last time I had a dude literally just plug into my board oh cool and he needed an AC outlet

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so he unplugged my laptop oh very nice so like don't be that dude most DJs if

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you ask them for a line out yeah they'll give it to you have different cable Solutions because they may give you quarter they may give you XL don't be

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the soundboard butthole be a nice guy so uh shout out to Darcy dog for working with us have you a backup yeah and at

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the very least at the very least if you're someone who is on a mobile camera

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uh maybe you're on a gimbal obviously gimbles get heavy you're going to want to have the probably the most condensed

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rig you can have yes probably not having an external mic on there maybe you are M either way set your in camera recording

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levels at a safe level safe levels don't have it clipping because you're like oh I've got this Source I've got this

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Source great but good Recaps in my opinion have natural stff lot of am

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audio at a super low level right it's nice to have that crowd noise that you can tell is synced up with the visual

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yeah at a at a super low level Vier it puts me in the environment yeah you don't afford yourself that opportunity

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if you are neglecting your audio levels and you just hear and it's through the roof it's unusable right so set some

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safe levels set some safeties uh those are those are more so on the gear side but your job your job and this is where

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the documentarian in me loves this style of of coverage your job is to find good

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compositions yes with good lighting MH and find reactions this is the key part

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reaction this is this is the key part you're going to naturally find your good compositions you're going to find that

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framing between the two people in the crowd their heads and you've got the person the speaker on stage you're this

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is a great compos because you're Environ you got you know that this this is like

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a POV it's all click but that shot and

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this is I've done this so I can tell you this from experience we've done this recently that shot is

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useless asterisk if the person speaking is not giving you a good facial reaction if

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they are I mean this is you're going to catch people at different stages of uh facials like all of these things like if

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they're giving giving you an ugly face yeah don't don't don't snap that well if you do just know like you didn't get it

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in the yeah just you you need to stay there because this composition's great be patient that's what I'm trying to say

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I was going to say we all get it like when you when you're running and gunning in a live event you're popping frames off comp you find it you're feeling good

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you're like oh this is money and you just you get whiskey throttle that's what it is you get you get the you get the photographer videographers version

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of of whiskey throttle yeah just be patient sit in the pocket be a Payton Manning sit in the pocket listen so like

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there were several good compositions and this is this is wait for Reggie to get open speaking for experience uh there

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were several really good compositions MH focused on uh say the presenter at this

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time M framing was beautiful execution was

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great exposure was good the photo was useless because we were not patient

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enough to get like basically it was as simple as the speaker wasn't even facing in the direction of the their head was

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turned we got whiskey throttle so you're like getting the back of somebody's head it's like this isn't a good photo this

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would have been so impactful had we waited the 30 seconds yeah if my if my trigger finger and my brain had just

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been a little more patient so just be patient you're G to find those beautiful shots wait until that beautiful shot let

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it develop really yeah really becomes that let that play develop that money shot sorry I'm giving a lot of football

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analogies right now and lit I mean literally just just have fun with it because it is so fun is very fun it is

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so fun because that's that's that's your job is to find good compositions and good reactions and if you're showing crowd reactions it's the same thing

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don't just find like oh this will be a good shot wait till it is a good shot you

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know what I'm saying wait till it is a good shot wait till that person that your is your subject is giving you the face that you need right and or maybe

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just the face not the face that you don't want yeah well and and this is just going to be something for live event coverage in general you know

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whether you're a photographer or videographer and this is something that it may come as a surprise because we we

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hear this sometimes that it's not always the case but be fun to work with yeah be

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fun like yes we're doing a serious job yes our goal is to like encapsulate this

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person's event but like be fun to work with be a joy yeah just be nice people yeah you know there's enough Richards in

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the world yeah to where you don't have to be one there's plenty of to go around I promise but like just be fun to work

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with yeah and that's something that we I don't know I guess pride ourselves on is

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we tryy to be fun and easy to work with because again that's part of the experience I would I would venture out

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to say that nine times out of 10 that will get you rehired faster than the Richard who may have a little bit more

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Talent yeah just saying just saying yeah if the if the dude with all the talent

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is not enjoyable to work with for I mean from start to

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finish yeah that's not going to that's not going to provide as much uh confidence to rehire someone who

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experience goes a long way I'll just say that I loved working with those guys I did and we we've had that we've had that

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told to us uh we had and I'm sure on the inverse there's been times where people have said oh I don't like working with that guy but I at least try on my side

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of things to be fun to work with yeah because I know like I know cameras are

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freaking intimidating most people actually very few people start out like just being

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camera Savvy being good in front of them either from a a model or just a speaking

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perspective uh that's normally a learned behavior but by and large people are very timid behind them or in front of

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them right intimidated by them yeah yeah so you're already doing something that

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someone's generally uncomfortable with yes you you further like exponentially

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make the uncomfortableness uncomfortable Yeah by also being a prick to work with

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being a Richard yeah for sure so you can disarm a lot of people by literally just being a human yeah it's being good just

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being goofy oh that's natural I can do that do that in my sleep there that um but yeah great tip be just be fun to

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work with be fun to work with which that goes for business in general like if you're if you're pleasurable to work

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with you you will get rehired yeah and that's promise that I can promise you that yeah that will

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also trans transcends live event it does it does that's also going to come back

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in the form of referrals at some point because the person who you were fun to work with and you did a good job for

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their event they're going to have someone at some point ask hey who did you have for this oh dude these guys

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were great not only did they do a bang up job on the content it was the most fun I've had in

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three years you know whatever uh that comes back to you it definitely comes back to you I agreed um speaking of things that would come back jar there's

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some things that would be greatly appreciated to come back our way what are those uh yeah feedback uh leave us a

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rating leave us a review leave us a comment um send this to buddies that are about to do their first live Ted talk

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yes or about to shoot their first live Ted Talk these that we talked about were like bare minimums it it can get so much

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so much deeper with this stuff and it can always be improved um so I would be curious if you are a photographer or

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videographer uh what are some tips that you would give yeah throw those in the comments down below and if you're a business owner or a uh an event uh host

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throw your questions in the comments down below maybe talk about I don't know people have had bad experiences and

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that's where a lot of hesitancy to book services like hours exist is bad experiences it's it's like so it's kind

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of like uh when they say what is it One Bad Apple ruin the whole batchu the whole batch or the whole bag or the

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whole Bush or whatever it's the same thing if if someone has a bad experience

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with a media team MH they're a lot more hesitant yeah L more of us they do so

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like if you're a business owner or an event host who's had experience good or

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bad I would like to I would love to hear about it I mean I really would comments below there you go on that note Jared here's the hard part uh we will see you

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at your next event he did not make that hard at all there we go