Episode 53 - How to get out of a creative rut as a photographer

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crap but like no that's just instruction I just I'm just asking you to give me two claps and a woo oh okay I got you

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why when you're out in public whether you're at a restaurant football game church event whatever and

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somebody from the nether regions says give me two claps and Ric Flair you got to wo okay see I didn't know that y i I

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do apologize for my lack of understanding well now you

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understand so if you hear that out in public you got to yeah okay well you know they can't be little claps either they gotta be big

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claps so we're not talking golf claps we're no normal claps decent size claps okay interesting interesting uh so good

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morning good yeah what a what an opening there right I mean good morning though

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you know if it is morning it's evening hope it's a good one as well uh wherever

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you find yourself in life you know if you're on the the mower mowing the lawn

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or uh motoring down the interstate or you know what you're in a field planting corn just taking a tractor another round

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I I'll be honest with you another round if you're another if you're poting corn right now you're late depends on when

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you're listen to this episode that's true so you take the tractor another

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round is that Aline I'm not a big old Al yeah not up I never really liked his

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music uh no never been a big Aline fan but hey sometimes he's got he's got a following just got take tractor another

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round our thing is very subjective uh so is music so is music

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uh so we speaking of subjectiveness I posed a question to a

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photographer today at a meeting that we had prior to this I said what is a good

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photo oh no what I mean what's the answer to that I don't know I mean if you go back to

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some of our previous episodes like does that are we taking into the account that you may or may not be like a pure

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photographer like you're editing or what like that's tough well that's tough wow it's just

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very subjective it's just very subjective what I think is a good photo

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you may not think is a good photo right what I think is a good photo someone on Instagram may not think

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is a good photo but guess what I mean it's a two-way street so like again it's very subjective what makes a good photo

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is it proper Expos is it proper exposure is it technically sharp is it beautiful

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colors is it I mean what makes a good I don't know um photo folks if You' got

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some thoughts on that leave those down in the comments below I'd like to see what you guys think a good photo is yeah

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could be pretty interesting get some maybe get some battles going on in the comments nothing like a good battle good

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comment battle I think it's G to open end up being like down to editing Styles right you know I mean maybe what if you

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don't edit and you don't have an editing style that's true see I'm just just saying there's a lot of different

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Avenues yeah Jared meat potatoes get us the meat and ters what to do when you are in a

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creative rut specifically that could be also this these these um these actions

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can also be applied to how to find inspiration yes uh which you're going to

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need to find inspiration at various stages of your career yeah we all go through the rut yeah here's the thing if you do this long enough I promise you

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you're going to have a couple of those you will it's it's a it's a mountain absolutely Peaks and valleys you're

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going to find yourself in a creative rut um and so like this one has most

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recently plagued me um so you're saying you're speaking from a little bit of personal experience yeah so like

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specifically I like that that helps me relate to you I love I love black and

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white photography I do I think that is one of the most pure forms of Photography we could talk probably a

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whole episode about that fact but I also go through

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periods of time where I'm very very very happy with my color work yeah on the

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inverse of that there are times when like I mean truly I could love my photo work my color photo work for a month

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straight just I'm I'm loving the way that these colors are rendering they're coming out I love it things are popping

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the very next month with the exact same preset or the exact same settings that I

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had loved one month ago just now just aren't doing it for so you can be in a creative R even even on the color side

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of things which is where you're coming from with this point is specifically I mean you've you've had this rut of I

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don't really like my colors right now I'm not I'm not enjoying my color work right now um and this has happened

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before and one thing that I like to do I found is helpful um the easiest thing

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remove color yeah literally go shoot black and white for a while so what about black and white for you um helps

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you through that rug cuz obviously there's no color there but like why is the lack of color that just seems

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counterintuitive for the lack of color to help me with color well I think you've so you know uh you know when you

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um go to like these uh taste testing things they give you something generally

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to cleanse your palette right well this is basically the exact same thing my eyes my mind the way that I've

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manipulated these colors I can't get out of this uh

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here you know you can the definition of insanity to keep doing the same thing expect different results it's like okay

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if what you're doing isn't working for you you got to do something different and if you don't know what to do

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differently with colors which if you know what to do differently with colors then I mean yeah do that just easy fix but if you don't cleanse your eyes

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cleanse your mind cleanse your photography eye with literally just shoot black and white yeah and this this

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period of time can differ for everybody like you may just be like look I'm going to go shoot every single day for a week

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and only deal with black and white maybe that's enough M at that point you start debling back with Co and you're like oh

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I've reset I know I know what I need to do now um well with black and white too

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like it's we've we've described this on a few episodes but like it's the great equalizer like there's only a couple

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things that you can concentrate on that's your tones yeah highlights Shadows midtones whatever and your

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composition your framing like those are the only variables that you have in black and white which so like one thing that's really cool about black and white

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it's not in some ways it's simple but in some ways it's also not um it's also

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kind of complex because you do not have you know you don't have the crutch of color you don't have color to help tell

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your story or craft your or or you know uh draw your viewers attention whatever

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you literally have luminance yeah you have white

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something from White and you have something to Black like somewhere in between but only those you don't have

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Hues right so saturation out uh shif in a hue out you know you've literally only

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got luminance values so at that point you have to you you you're forced to really concentrate on your composition

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and analyzing your light yeah but also in editing yeah with black and white you

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know there's a skill to it I think to to to using those limited uh variables

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those limited uh pieces in your toolkit to still have a great image to have that

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contrast to uh you know draw your viewer's eye through masking and all those other

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things so like it there's a there's a fun exercise and also I found it to be a

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great reset if you are struggling with your color work uh right now give

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yourself a reset go do a month or or or whatever whatever length of time just

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give yourself that reset only do black and white well and it helps you too because you mentioned in the edit but I think even in camera and I know you're a

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big proponent of this especially as of late like you've realized lately that you prefer going out when the lights a

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little bit harsher you you like those harsh lighting conditions and with black and white you can really hone in on that

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that's fair when you're out shooting like you're not even doing that in the editing Suite you're actively analyzing

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your light do I like a a cloudy day do I like a sunny day do I like you know slashes of light or do I want things to

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be softer like when you're only in that black and white mentality um those are the things that you really hone in on

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and I think it's a great way to sharpen your skills specifically with lighting um because again that's one of the only

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variables that you're working with at that point in time so whether it be in camera or in postprocessing like you

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you've got to work with your lighting oh yeah another thing too like if you're stuck with colors I think it can be very

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helpful to uh you know change change your environment yes or uh

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that could be that could be uh change uh change your subject okay so

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for instance if you are a if you're a family photographer or a portrait photographer you know you're

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typically dealing with skin tones and and you know humans right so if you get

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in a color rut that's what I'm going to call this to if you get tired of your colors and your colors just aren't doing

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it for you and you're struggling change your scenery up if you typically take people uh your your

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subjects to to you know um vast Landscapes maybe try an urban style yeah

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take to the city I'm telling you your colors are going to be different you're not going to be dealing with your greens and stuff like that at that same level

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so like it can be different plus too you're going to have some really cool shadows and so literally changing your

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scene environment and changing your environment um can add can give you

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access to different colors you may just literally be tired of green which I I think is probably commonly what takes

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place here we have a lot we got a lot of green and it's not deciduous green it's not deciduous green and it it it can be

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kind of difficult to deal with nuclear constant basis um which we're fixing to get into fall so it's fixing to be

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really pretty but it's not the case year round though even if you're uh so that was just changing your scene you may

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just want to change your subject change the niche yeah for real go go try your hand at uh automotive automotive

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photography or product photography Street photo yeah street photography product photography that's a fun one

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just do something that you don't normally do yeah challenge yourself because what that's going to do is force

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you to be creative basically um and that can be very helpful even on the color side I was going to say it forces you to

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be creative also too like there's some things like disciplines that apply to you know let's just say street

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photography that you may realize also work really well in portrait photography there you go you know or things like or

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in street photography that may carry into product photography product photography and vice versa uh so there's

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a lot of different benefits to to changing the environment and that that comes in the form of literally changing

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what you're shooting yeah or if you're going to stick with hey I'm a portrait photographer like just move them to a

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different scene yeah I mean if you're always the forest all the time yeah I mean again you can literally grow tired

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of that uh and I think a lot of times you can grow tired of your colors

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I really this just hit me actually this just hit me uh a great real world example I know we're all about practical application here Bonnie and mail for

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example okay they took me and Sarah to a laundry match shoot and literally their reasoning for that was like hey we want

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to try some different stuff we want to try some fun stuff we want to try different scenery so literally you know

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two people that we look up to uh Bonnie and Melissa they were actively practicing that which is why you know

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they got me and Sarah in a laundry mat and some 70s attire like it was a fun shoot and they were just practicing

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different skill sets yeah I mean that is your opportunity to I mean

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you you've got a Sandbox there like yep you play go play in it go play that's fun like and and here's the thing too I

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think I think it can be difficult specifically if you know once you find your Niche once you find uh you know

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your your your Honey Spot there that you just love doing and let's just say that's

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weddings you can you can love wedding photography but you can also get tired

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of it now you you can grow fatigue you know and and and and to where like creatively you're just like going

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through the motions or you just don't have this spark and again if you do this

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long enough you're you're going to have probably multiple yeah you're going to need a breather from time to time so

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challenge yourself go do something that's different if you've never if you've never woken up to go catch a

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sunrise on a beautiful landscape yeah do that do it just just the just even the literal planning aspect planning the

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adventure of getting there like that's creative and you're GNA you're gonna find I like that you're gonna you're G

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to find new ways to to to see things um I like that yeah change what you shoot

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um what and wear what and wear absolutely here's another one hit me with another one here's another one that

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you can do and some people may not be as interested in this but hey I tell you

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what it's a humbling thing change your format or your medium so what do you mean by that

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changing my format medium H most people are digital photographers today uh oh I

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think I know where this is going you could dabble into the old f word f i l m film film film that

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is I I know I know people are going to be like up in arms

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if they if they were to hear something like this Sac religious but they'll say you they'll they'll get frustrated with

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someone who says oh film film slows me down like it

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I'm more immersed in the process it slows me down as a photographer and forces me to XYZ as they're wearing like

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a STS and hat Spenders and circle frame glasses is it a slower process

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physically yeah it's a slower process everything everything about it slower for sure which I love and if you've ever

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shot film uhuh it'll humble you it'll definitely humble you you can be a great

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digital photographer know the exposure trying in and out then you get a film camera and if

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it's not fully auto which the fully auto ones they're going to do a pretty good job yeah they're they're fine Shameless

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plug they're going to do a pretty good job but if you if you start to be like you know what you want to dabble though I want to meter this scene myself yeah

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I'm going to push the I mean you've got got tons of devel myself oh no that's a

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whole nothing you could end up with bubbles on a roll with them uh cuz you know is the

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great humbler it is but seriously change your change your format um maybe you

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don't want to do client work in film but as a photographer who's in a rut uh

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maybe you do pick up a film camera you pick up a role of Kodak ultramax I mean any any film stock yeah Will Will it'll

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do will do it could even be black and white which black and white films F to shoot my favorite black and white film's

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like six bucks a roll so like it's even cheap to shoot nice yeah but literally change your format uh change your medium

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so what that's going to force you to do well am I not on the first rle

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because you may take it with the digitals mentality and I did and you're going to botch it and you're going to botch it but if you have like any

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aspiration of like improving yeah upon that that second rle that's going it's

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going to be a different it's going to be a different process you're going to realize oh I can't underexpose this right like

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you can in digital yeah actually digital kind of works better if if you do that yeah uh film not so much film wants a

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lot of light well the thing too with film is like there's even different methodologies on how to shoot film like

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you mentioned earlier met metering your scene like there's a whole group of people out there who don't meter at all

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they just shoot with sunny 16 rule which is again and that's another conversation but that's a a mentality that you can

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bring to the film shooting table of I'm not going to met her anything I'm just going to I'm going to shoot this thing

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at F-16 all day long right and you know I've got appropriate settings for that but like you think differently you

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change the the tool and and the actual medium uh from digital to film and which

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that's one thing for me that's been super super fun with film is obviously I

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know film's expensive um obviously I know that I'm going to mess a lot of things up and I have and I still do but

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like film for me these past couple of years has been so refreshing because I

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learned something new literally literally every role yeah I learned

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something new about okay I did botch this metering okay the camera botched this metering because I was letting it

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decide okay I botch my development like and and I'm able to take mental notes and take actual notes on what I've done

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to where I feel like now I I can work my way around you know a film session

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pretty comfortably yeah um but it's taken a lot of mess ups and a lot of time to do that right but I mean it's it

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it's gotten me out of quite a few creative RS yeah well I mean here here's something that I didn't necessarily you

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know intend on saying um but if you're in a creative rut

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um maybe maybe it could be as simple as not necessarily changing your format

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maybe you've got zero interest in in dabbling and filming that's fine I'm not I'm not saying that you should if you don't want to do it but you can still

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change your your your tool so like honestly if you've shot Sony all your

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life rent a cannon or go borrow one borrow a Fuji from somebody you know like change

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ecosystems and take some photos with that because I mean there going to be differes there's going to be differences

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you're having to learn a new menu you're having to um manipulate a new camera

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Fuji's greens are different than Canon's greens I mean there's there's nuances and and there's going to be differences so it's going to force you to you know

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do something different because you can't do the exact same thing well and two I mean with with format specifically I

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mean even if you remain digital and and remain with your same camera system literally and I mentioned this off

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camera but literally shoot in a different format as far as like aspect ratio so like if you're used to shooting

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most of them are 2 by3 yeah most of them are 2 by3 if you're used to 2 by3 shoot some one by one square good oldfashioned

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Square shoot some shoot some uh panoramics some 65 by 24 like those

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different framings um again will cause you to rethink composition uh framing

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things like that um I've gotten a big kick again which I'm doing it on film but I've gotten a big kick shooting 6x6

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medium format which is square yeah um so when you're shooting in a square camera

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you think a little differently like you're you're picking and choosing what's getting cut off because you don't

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have you don't have the widness anymore you're no you've got the tallness you've got the tallness you got more tallness

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actually you got more tallness but even at that like you're picking and choosing some things which has been fun for me because Square cropping is is a totally

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different approach than horizontal cropping yeah so and another exercise that we used to do and we still do I

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think we should do more of but um if you're in a creative rut a really fun exercise is to give

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yourself a themed photo walk do some challenges do some challenges and like we get a goofy one where remember one

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day we uh we decided we were going to walk around downtown we gave ourselves a

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time constraint even so again constraints are going to help with this creativity if you give yourself

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limitations and a task yeah well you've got to play Within these lines and and get the gold your sandbox so so we gave

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ourselves a task of 10 minutes uh and we went to Google and did a random letter

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yes generator I remember that I think we ended up with the letter D yep things that start with the letter D we had to

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photograph with 10 minutes uh and that was like walking to and walking back we had to report back

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to this uh central location listen tuby boy over here was huffing well I

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was i' never realized how hilly our downtown was until I gave myself out of shape a 10-minute challenge but anyways

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so we had ourselves uh a challenge find a photo with the letter D MH something

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to you uh that starts with d what does D mean to you how can you incorporate that into your photo um I ended up taking a

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sign of like Depot Street yep was closed or open for business but there was this massive close sign oxymoron ended up

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shooting a hot dog because dogs dogs uh you had the dog stand all that to say no feet pictures were made in that photo

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walk which was well un this was prior to this was pre- dog this was yeah prior to

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feet being dogs true anyways I digress it's still not a dog to me anyways yeah

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give yourself a photo challenge and uh maybe bring a photographer along and so make it a make it a competition what we

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did was we put those two photos uh took it to the gram took it to an Instagram

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story and gave uh listeners and viewers a poll said which photo do you think do you prefer

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do you prefer and so I mean nobody won anything it wasn't like a grand prize or anything but it still fun challenge

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challeng we do actually we definitely do you could do colors you could do shapes you could like the possibilities of this

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themed photo walk are are literally endless you could even just give an action like movement I need to I need to

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get you in a challenge where like we pick the camera that the other one uses and I'm going to put the rly flex in your hands oh cuz I want to see how you

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shoot Square well I don't know that our viewers will I mean it'll take a while to get the results at all I can develop

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same day oh dang one hour photo literally I mean I can do less than that

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actually as long as the film's dry anyways I'll stick the rolly in your hands see how you do

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square interesting yeah that would be a fun challenge it would certainly be something I'm not familiar

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with uh I think I think maybe one of uh

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I think maybe uh one of the last things that you can do for finding inspiration

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and if you're just starting out and you're trying to find your style you're also in this boat you're needing to find

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inspiration but if you're in a creative rut you're also again trying to find inspiration to get out of this this hole

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that you're in um social media can be a bad place but it can also be a really good place uh social media is a bad

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place if you uh constantly play the comparison game if you get into comparing that that's detrimental it's

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very detrimental I mean the the cliche that's been stated a million times uh comparison is the thief of joy ofy and

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it is like it will it will rob you of Joy if you stay in this comparison game

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which is why that's not what I suggest doing with social media I suggest drawing inspiration from uh uh

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photographers that you look up to maybe they're even in your Niche um like specifically a really fun one to do

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again if you're a wedding photographer and you never ever shot landscape go to

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go to Instagram M search the hash landscape photographer go get inspiration maybe you find one that's

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even close to you so like maybe they took a photo uh at this uh Lookout

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that's an hour from your house okay great now you've got a challenge not to like specifically pixel for Pixel

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recreate that photo go shoot it your way but go challenge it because I promise you if you go take that photo you're

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probably going to end up with a different photo than than they did because your processing is going to be different all different human you see

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things differently but draw inspiration and use social media because there are tons tons of great photographers

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absolutely beautiful work out there literally at your thumbs you've just got to search it yeah and you can get so

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inspired uh by the work that you see there on social media yeah well and too specifically with inspiration and where

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to find it and how to find it I mean we've mentioned this on a few episodes back too like go to your library find

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some photo books you know things things that are tangible that you can hold look into other art forms you know look look

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at magazines or or different styles magazines like Southern Southern Homes and living like there you go what are

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those Center folds looking like or go to Motor Trend what does what does their centerfold look like different Avenues

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of Photography different Avenues of mediums even you know tangible magazines Instagram YouTube whatever I can give

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you a long list very long list of of photographers that I'm inspired by um oh

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yeah in in multiple different disciplines I mean I can give you Street I can give you landscape I can give you portra teers I'll call them portra yeah

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not not the same as a mousketeer but portrait here um but a long list of photographers that inspire me daily yeah

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um so yeah I think those Avenues though are important you you've got to have your social medias that's probably the

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most accessible for most people because you don't physically have to go anywhere also I don't have to necessarily buy anything you know a great if you are

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wanting to buy a great way to to get inspired is old photo books or even

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current photo books from artist yeah you buy an anel Adams photo book and you see like oh gosh look

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at what this guy did or you know whatever um one of my one of my favorite

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and he only shoots black and white uh Allen Allen schaer that dude the shaw

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Master oh my yeah he's one of my favor gosh I would probably buy a photo book

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from him i' I've actually purchased photo books from dudes that we're friends with on threads I there's a guy

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um Derek Buckner that I follow on threads and he he has a photo book that

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I I bought a few months ago and it's it's like I think it's only a 10 pager it's like a mini photo book but man some

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of the work that he has in there yeah absolutely love and I would say there there are others out there again that

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are selling photo books that it's a good idea to go get from because hey we're supporting each other here but right um

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I I think a photo book is just fun to hold like the the tangibility of it yeah

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I I mean I would agree with that which every time I see one or see somebody put one out I'm always reminded of like gosh

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I need to do that I need well not even not even necessarily a photo book I'd love to I would love to have a photo book and I would love to sell a photo

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book all those things I just need to print more of my work truly I literally need to print more of my work um hey if

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any of our listeners out there if you'd like to see a photo book from myself or Jared let us know in the comments below

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if you do uh kind of like we stated another episode go bless your heart yeah bless

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bless your heart first off but hey may maybe we've shot something it I don't know what it would be cuz I shoot a lot

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of garbage but literally same well same uh you know I guess one last thing if

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none of this is like maybe you've not zero interest in uh you know suggesting

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a different scene for your clients maybe you have zero interest in in changing formats and like I'm not doing film guys

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um I'm also not renting and I don't have any local photographers who don't shoot a different that shoot a different body

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and I'm not shooting Square I'm not shooting Square great cool give yourself

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a challenge maybe you don't even want to go on a photo walk maybe you have zero interest in doing a photo walk give yourself a uh a 15-day challenge for 15

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days in a row I'm going to take at least one

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photo that challenges you to and and maybe you again it's it's kind of help it's kind of helpful if you give

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yourself boundaries and a theme like I'm going to take something blue yeah

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days for 15 days take something different or I mean maybe you even challenge yourself like I'm going to shoot the exact same subject which this

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could be a car this could be a barn this could be days listen there's going to be variances there you may not be able to

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get there at 6:15 like you were yesterday which it's dark now 6:15 but like you know what I'm saying like there

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are going to be differences and those those photo challenges are fun I I watched a guy on YouTube um William bck

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yes he shot the rock for 30 days Y and I'm like that was really cool because

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what did he do what did he do he changed his angles he changed his focal lengths he went in the morning he went the time at he went shot it at noon he shot it

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and so some days were raining and like all of those things are going to force you to be creative yes you're shooting

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the exact same subject possibly if that's what you choose to do Willam Willam shot it very well which Willam he

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he's a very published uh film photographer uh in in very large

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magazines right but anyway like I've drawn inspiration even at that level he he needed some practice at

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something and make it make it easy for yourself like I have and I guess I guess I guess guilty confession here I wanted

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to make myself shoot um my neighbor cows for 30

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days yeah sound like M Mountain Man on Duck Dynasty but I have wanted to make

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myself shoot the exact same her of cattle in the exact same field for 30 days cuz that's easy for me they they're

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my neighbors it's the low bar or the barrier is low like I don't have to drive 30 minutes to get to this location

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or anything like that so that's definitely a challenge that I could give myself and I think it would be a fun one

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that'd be pretty cool it's evidently not fun enough for me to do I'd like to see your uh your beef photos yeah I actually

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may do that actually the beef Brigade I think I may do that make a photo book out of it the beef Brigade photo book I

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don't know that that title is a working title that may not be the

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finish title um but yeah give yourself a challenge and if it's for 10 days or maybe it's just a week whatever whatever

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yeah there you go um but give yourself a challenge and make yourself stick to those hold yourself accountable if you

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give yourself deadlines make yourself hold uh stick to those deadlines play Cal magazine yeah I don't think that's a

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thing that's bad we we got we gotta get out of here I'm getting stupid now wow yeah sorry guys um I didn't know

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he was going to say that either I also didn't realize that my my my cow project was going to spawn this um I mean

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anyways some things you know listen uh there are some things that you can do for us though truly and hopefully

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this episode has helped somebody at this point I'm wondering uh if you're still

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listening and you've not you know turned the TV off turned you he

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ner anyways uh you heer should I say if you know someone like maybe maybe you

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have a photographer friend who you were just talking to and they're like dude I'm I'm stuck in a rut dude I'm not

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loving my photo work hating my colors uh maybe send them this episode know that we've been there yeah for real

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like like still are there sometimes yeah we've been there sometimes actively uh we'll be there again Lord willing um the

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creek don't rise the greatek don't rise send them this episode there are maybe something that they can do one of these

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things is is actionable and I I think would help them uh they've helped me in the past these are things that I done uh

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and will continue to do the next time I get into a creative rut um so yeah send it to somebody uh otherwise you can give

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us uh ratings yeah stars and bars yeah leave us a comment let us know uh that

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this was helpful or what you do get out of creative red I'd like to know what others are doing you know what again I'm

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always looking for help so absolutely um these are not the only things that you can do to get out of creative I would

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like to know some things that can do maybe when these aren't working for me that might be what you need to get out of your creative that may be what you

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need and and on that note Jared here is the hard part uh we will see you guys uh

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later once we change formats he didn't make that very hard we'll see you guys