Episode 50 - Beginner Photography Mistakes & How to AVOID Them!

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what we're talking about today we're talking about photo mistakes mistakes

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mistakes that photographers make um and I can say these mistakes our mistakes

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with confidence because yes have made them and uh you know what truth told still probably make some of them so yeah

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trying to help you out avoid those mistakes avoid that pain just just avoid it listen to us not because we not

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because we know everything because we make them all regularly what is it that dude the State Farm dude says uh we know

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taters we are talking mistakes that photographers make so I wrote one down

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yes which is maybe news to everybody that we write things down um that you

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stated so I'll let you take it away but I did write it down and and you basically stated too much gear too soon

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yeah um this is a mistake that I see very often and a mistake that I would say even into my professional career I

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have made um thinking that I have to have either a the newest best latest

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greatest most superflous gear that's in existence um and that's just not the

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case I think that a lot of people get inundated and and we know this because we get questions pretty regularly what

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should I buy I saw that this person has this camera and and I need this camera I saw that this person has this lens and I

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need this I think too many people whenever they get started especially worry so much about the gear side yeah

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and I'm not going to sit here and say that gear doesn't matter because it does to a point and we may talk about that in

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the future um but I will say that depending on the style of

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Photography that you're shooting or your budget or you know whatever limitations you may have um don't get so inundated

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in the gear talk y that you forget about the things that matter like learning the craft of photography what good

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compositions you know how toose anage um working on education really finding some

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that you can lean on that will teach you good photography so don't get caught up in the beginning um with trying to

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accumulate so much gear that a you don't have the budget to learn right um if if you're not utilizing free tools um but B

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it's it's a very very large rabbit hole that you can fall down into that you may not actually have to Too Much gear too

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soon is is a is a big thing yeah um and here's the thing if you keep doing this

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and if you care the least bit about uh the actual Tech behind a behind cameras

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like it's going to be it's it's unavoidable you're going to accumulate crap you're going to get gas which is

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gear acquisition syndrome you're going to accumulate regardless you're going to you're going to want to stay up on the

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tech and like it's going to be exciting because Sony just released this new thing but that's really not necessary

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and I'll even go a step further in the sense that if you watch any

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YouTube for instance uh one of my favorite photographers and I talk about him all the time but he's he's truly one

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of my favorite photographers and he's one of my favorite channels to watch James pops's yes he talks all the time

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and and and and what in inevitably happens when someone starts they get their first bit of gear yeah then

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they're like oh I've got to build my gear uh toolkit I've got to build my and and you end up with so many lens

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then you get to a point in your career mostes where you're like I need

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downsides yeah I've got too much craft I've got too much stuff and I just don't use it all and so what he does and he

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travels a lot so a lot of it weight savings it's what do I physically want to have on my back but it

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also like boasts creativity in the sense of if you create limitations for

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yourself you're going to have to adapt you have to adapt versus you can also the the oppos the opposite side of that

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is if you have too much gear it can become kind of crippling in the sense of

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like you've got all these options you got too many options and you don't necessarily make choices or you might make the wrong choice versus really

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getting good with that lens we we'll talk lenses for specific camera whatever

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um I know for instance we talked about them before uh Bonnie and uh Jennifer male oh

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yeah male specifically I dare say they shoot 95% of their work on a 35mm lens

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yeah I know Bonnie does for sure now could they not get good portraits and good work with other lenses no that's

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not what I'm saying but they don't need right all

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this other gear right they they've mastered what they are good at with

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minimal gear yeah so you don't don't need a poop ton of gear to get started

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no and you don't always need the latest and greatest and and I tell people this a lot um whenever they've asked me you

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know what what camera should I buy what what should I look at here my favorite digital camera currently in my Arsenal

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was released in 2015 my my ex Pro 2 oh okay say where you going with that yeah I mean that's

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my favorite my favorite camera in the Arsenal right now so it's a 10-year-old camera yep that still yields for me my

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favorite results um with with my photography here's here's something I'll tell you I typically shoot my photos

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with a uh which it's not new but it is newer Tech in the sense that it's mirrorless I shoot typically shoot with

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a Canon osr yeah uh well I don't have any RF glass so I use an EF to RF Canon

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adapter and I adapt to EF glass well I needed to loan out that adapter and a lens to another entity here in

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Greenville which meant because I don't have any RF glass meant that I couldn't use my eosr body right so you've been

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back on the 5D haven't you so I had as fate would have it we had two events we had a a gimme golf event that I had to

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cover and uh star Fitness so our retainer client and you were gone so I

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had to cover both of those things and I had to resort to my Canon 5D Mark III which I'm pretty sure was released in

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2014 I going to say it's or 12 I think it was 12 the 52 was 2010

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it's more than 10 years old at this point and thing you're using it for

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professional work I was paid to use it wow twice in the last four days um which

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fun fact that was their Flagship back in the days no I mean it's it's a great camera but age wise it's not new it's

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not the latest great a great camera and and truly it still has a dad bur mirror inside of it it does it's

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DSLR I got those photos back from gimme golf uh when I get to when I started to

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edit them and I've got a preset for gimme golf so like it it makes the editing workflow uh really easy I I pasted that on there

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because it's all Canon so the colors matched up nicely but I pasted that on all my photos as I imported them into

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Lightroom and I'm going through and I'm doing my pcks and I'm like man this camera still holds up today in

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2024 um so yes all that to say you do not need the latest and greatest you do

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not need a plethora of gear like I said with the XPR it's called the XPR for a

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reason yeah you're using the X Pro 2 which I think they've got a third one out yeah X Pro 3 about to release the

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fourth that I'll not be buying because the X Pro 2 is good enough honestly I if if if it weren't if the 5d3 had a a

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tiltable screen or even touchcreen would that be your Bay I would still use it it is

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limiting after using some of the new rch like pain in the butt if I'm trying to

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get any low angles cuz it screen is fixed too so like that's very pain in the butt that's really the only time it

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comes into place because I'm old school I still typically prefer I like my eyepiece um I'm not an LCD shooter I

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mean there's nothing wrong with it it's just not what I'm accustomed to doing nothing wrong with it but as far as

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camera experience goes I just like having it up to my eye so in in some cases you know not being able to get

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those low angles without literally laying on the ground which I had to do it give me gol and it worked out and I have no problem doing that it is what it

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is but you do not need all the newest latest Grace gear

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absolutely learn and master what you have yeah take us to the next one Jared

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this is one that you brought up in conversation I thought it was very interesting it's tough It's really tough

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and and and I'm mostly see it with uh beginner photographers it's and

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and I'm going to call it inconsistent colors throughout a set of images like an

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inconsistent edit yeah and what I mean by that is like I've even seen it on like minis yeah right that I know the

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whole session because it's advertised is 15 minutes right I know that the light didn't change that much yeah and most of

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those minis are you set up a backdrop yeah you got one one set up so very

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little is changing the camera is not moving and all those things so it it comes down to uh inconsistent editing

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yeah and and I think maybe what is is a is a is maybe happening is people don't

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look at the set of the images as a whole before they deliver it and and all that

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I mean by that is like if if your scene is is dang near the same and this the

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the lighting clearly didn't change now if you've got overcast and sunny popping

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in and out are that's different but these are blatant instances of like okay

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it doesn't appear that you looked at your whole set right and what I mean by that is like if you picked your top 15

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images look at all 15 of them consecutively go leag and if you're in Lightroom just go to library View and I

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I wonder if people aren't looking in Lightroom I wonder and I've thought about that I know some people call

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beforehand beforehand but if if you are in light room specifically just open up library view or you can do your your uh

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slideshow View and just pop through all your images and and you can look and it's like you'll noticed it typically

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it's it's more obvious with color but it also can come in luminance um yeah luminance and white balance changes

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especially if you're shooting Auto white balance um which I know a lot of people still do like there's going to be some

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differences there because you may have metered uh differently where depending on where you pointed your camera right

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but your whole set should look consistent yeah right it should be

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consistent image to image in my my opinion I think that really sets a a a

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beginner from a really seasoned photographer you look at some of your seasoned photographers and you look at

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their whole set and you're like oh yeah Skin's the same brightness value uh it's

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the same color and you're GNA always have some variants especially if you

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shoot for an hour like the lighting and stuff does change but overall is is is having inconsistent

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colors uh and and editing throughout a set of images like I've seen some really

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really blatantly bad ones specifically regarding white balance it's like oh that one looks really warm that looks

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really good and then the very next image that I can tell was not shot very much longer right after is very cool yeah

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well I see a big difference too sometimes and again I've made this same mistake and I think it's because when we're editing we we forget what we did

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200 images ago yes on how many how many we shot and and before you learn to use presets and copy and paste The Habit is

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to edit everything individually yeah um but I I notice a lot of the times with black and white specifically some images

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will have you know very dark blacks or very bright whites and then the others will have like a faded film look so

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you're taking even color out of the equation there we're strictly looking luminance values there and that's the

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same set of images differ so yeah I would just suggest made that mistake oh yeah I I look back at some of my older

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sets like not even a year ago and I'm like I I could have matched those better I could have just copied and pasted that

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that preset I could have matched those a lot better um so so I would you know this is a problem that I see and if you

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notice like man there is something different a good exercise before you do your final export and specifically

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before you do your final delivery look at the whole set of images if you're delivering 20 images thumb through them

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really quickly your eyes are going to like pick out those differ they pick up on the differ oh you know what that one was way brighter than it needed to be go

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fix that image this one was orange this one was blue you're you're going to be able to fix those things if you look at the set as a whole as opposed to to each

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image yep because each image on its own may look fine well your eye is going to start developing a bias towards that it

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if you spent hours editing right if you've spent hours editing eye fatigue is a big thing um which is why we encourage breaks but um yeah there

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there's going to be some bias towards the image that you're on so take step back maybe go take you a 10-minute break

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oh yeah little siesta if you're feeling a little sleepy oh yes um come back and look at the entire set before you deliver have you that provides me have

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you seen those uh Trends or those those I've seen them SE several times especially if it's like a late

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night editing session you're just beat bopping you feel like it is oh yeah and you come back the next morning and you're like it looks like Shrek what did

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I do I remember thinking this was good um I I have a guilty confession to make

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I actually did that this morning um because were you still pleased with the results this morning no and if if

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anybody follows me on threads or even Instagram I I got home from the beach and I was very eager to develop some

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rolls of film that I had shot and so I developed them last night I waited around for them to dry and went ahead

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and started scanning them and editing them um came back this morning looked at those scans and edits and I was like oh

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my gosh wow I have forgotten how to photography it happens happens to

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everyone so yes strive to have a consistent look

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cohesive look throughout your sets now you don't necessarily have to have it set for set right cuz if you shoot you

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could even shoot like two days back to back and the lighting is completely different I'm not I'm not saying Tuesday has to match what you

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shot Wednesday yeah that would be rather boring actually but your set should have some Co all

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your so look at your full set fix your differences agreed you'll lack yourself better agreed moving on uh we have a

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couple of back to backers right here that I think are well this is kind of like the uh yeah the little angel and

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devil they're definitely on different ends of the spectrum specifically the light

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spectrum how you like that pretty good uh Jared let's tackle this point first

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too bright I'm editing my images too bright overexposing your images

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and sometimes you can tell yeah a trained eye can tell like if you've seen enough images and if you've made the

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mistake enough yourself like I have you can tell like this was captured

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Overexposed yes you did not capture the proper exposure this wasn't an editing

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style right this was captured yeah your highlights are blown they're blown

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there's no detail there it doesn't matter if you take that to -600 which you can't do in Lightroom but if you could it there's no detail there there

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white as a marshmallow so and it's not the end of the world if you do that with your sky right but where it comes into

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play is when it like skin tones yes if you've got light that is a very hot

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spot a very high or a very hot highlight yeah and you've blown that on your

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subject's face that's that's something that's not

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it's not repairable oh yeah it's not recoverable and and it again it screams it screams amateur and again I say that

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because I've made that mistake many many times but um especially with digital

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with digital and this is where film and digital kind of differ true with film it's okay to overexpose quite a bit it

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can handle having very hot highlights but digital specifically struggles um it

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struggles capturing highlight data and specifically retaining highlight data so we we've said this a couple of times

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when it comes to digital photography if you are trying to go for a brighter look get your exposure right in camera raise

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it later which is a thing Brighton Ary that's Bri AR's a style pop a style that's been around for a while it may be

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around for a long time thing but do properly don't don't accidentally blow

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everything the people who are really good at it are not capturing their images that way in camera they're

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getting proper exposure doing it in post and doing it in post uh it's the same way with James popis uh he captures his

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images with a proper exposure yeah but if you look at his edited image and he's called out about this all the time

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people are like James you blow the highlights the whole sky's gone well no it's not you see his raw like it's there

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he edits it that way because of his style and he says look if this isn't part of the subject yeah I don't want it

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I want it I don't want it to distract from the subject doesn't help the story so he will raise those limited values

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right but he's never capturing them blown like so so be mindful of capturing your images and

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just don't overexpose them because you just you can't fix that in

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post no no especially not on a digital image so so be be very mindful of that on the opposite end of that light

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spectrum yeah um we have images that are shot too dark or underexposed very

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underexposed images whether it be accidental um on purpose or you just didn't know what you were doing again

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made this mistake plenty of times yes um but maybe you're going for a moody look or or a a darker look to tell a

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different story um in your images I I see a lot of folks too in the beginning go way too dark um in camera I think the

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I think the the pitfall and I believe this is the reason why we see this issue on both ends of the spectrum is you see

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an editing style and this is where you've drawn inspiration this is what you like this is what you're trying to achieve trying to emulate it you need to

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understand they're not capturing it in camera that way right they're capturing a proper exposure

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right and they're tweak they're bringing it in that direction in post production

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yeah so same thing with with underexposing an image now I will say

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this digital cameras do handle Shadows better yeah they handle underexposure better they do ere exposure but there

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comes a point where it's still going to be gone you weigh underexposed an image you're not

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going to be able to bring it back and you're going to attempt to raise those Shadows or those black levels detail is not going to be there but noise is a lot

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of noise so it's it's a it's just a situation

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of make sure that you are capturing the proper exposure and here's here's

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something that I I was if you're not shooting a mirrorless camera where you're seeing your exposure live in your

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evf or your LCD shooting a DSLR camera which a lot of people are heck I've been

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I found myself in the last week twice using DSLR cameras what you need to do

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is just be mindful of it and so what's your meter your meter is going to to help you but the big Telltale is going

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to be after you fire frame yeah like fire frame check that check your screen it's like o I'm a little dark I know the

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meter said it was zero right says it was proper okay well in that case you may need to raise

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your uh exposure comp if you're shooting an average priority or whatever so that

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you achieve the proper exposure overall those two things deal with the exposure

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yeah and Trends and something you've drawn inspiration from just know they're not capur get it right in camera uh get

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your exposure right in camera dial in the look in post production post production yeah that's how they achieve those So speaking of lights and darks um

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this leads us to probably our last point of this topic but Trend chasing there

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there's a reason that a lot of the times especially as beginners we struggle with shooting things too bright or shooting

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things too dark it's because we've seen something that we like right we're trying to copy it yeah or emulate it

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whatever you want to say um and we do it improperly but I would say overall

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overall the idea of trend chasing especially in photography um something to be very mindful of and I think a

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mistake that a lot of photographers make we've talked about this before Jared but it's okay whenever you first start

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shooting to go shoot anything and everything you you've got to figure out what you like yeah um and even with

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Styles you know making stylistic choices or or finding a photographer that you like um and trying to emulate that

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perfectly okay with that but when it comes specifically to Trends I know one that you and I harp on quite a bit um is

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back about five to six years ago what I'm gon to call the Oompa Loompa edit yeah that was bad where we had no greens

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no yellows but by golly everybody was orange yep um be careful chasing Trends

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I think that one thing you'll never go wrong with is learning a photography style and an eding editing style that is

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what we'll call Timeless yeah um so whether that is a a brighten Airy

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properly done yeah or a dark and Moody properly done right I think those two specifically will probably stand the

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test of time from here till Kingdom Come unless something miraculous happens in the photography World um but as far as

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like your specialy trends like the Oompa loomas I know if you guys remember a few episodes ago my big uh orange mistake

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was was the to the the te and orange look I leaned very heavily into that very wrongly very bigly wrongly bigly

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wrongly um with the de orange so specifically the trends that are like hot today Trends be careful following

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those well be careful following them and and implementing them into all of your

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work again if there's something that you like from a

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trend pick that sprinkle it pick that facet out and Yeah and start sprinkl in

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there and and you know what we have back in the day Salt Bay Salt Bay it in there oh that was a yeah that was a that was a

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CO thing blast from the past that was a thing Salt Bay just just just be aware

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of Trends they're a trend because I mean they're a trend because

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they're a trend they're going to change it's a trap it's a yeah we could where's

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the Star Wars name insert the Star Wars dude right where he says it's a trap but my all I'm trying to say is I'm trying

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to caution you because here's the thing when you first start out you're going to be drawing inspiration from somewhere I encourage you to do that here's the

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thing there's nothing new Under the Sun no it's all been done you're not Reinventing photog you're not

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Reinventing so like don't put pressure on yourself to do it or to be the most unique person ever what is it the kids

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are saying these days don't try to be a clout demon oh dead I mean absolutely don't be a demon anyways don't be a

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demon anyways but definitely not for clout in the photography game so so just be aware that these Trends are going to

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come and go like I've seen them they're going to come and go but if you can Master a Timeless editing

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Style and what I basically mean by that is what I consider Timeless is where

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your Hughes your colors are not too far one way or the

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other not so excuse that 10 years from now you're like oh my gosh not believable like it needs to still be in

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my opinion believable um that's what I would consider Timeless unless you're an

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abstract photographer and we that's a totally different discussion toally different thing I'm mostly talking about

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like uh portrait photography or landscape photograph go with something that you and your clients can look back

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on 10 years from now and be like that still does it for me yeah that that still checks my box that still does it

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so just avoid Trends yeah they're fun to play with but I would I wouldn't I

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wouldn't you know throw my anchor overboard here on a trend is what I'm getting at I wouldn't throw a trend into

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my portfolio long term no or short term no they're fun they're fun to play

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with yes they are fun to play with and and here's a really fun exercise and just I didn't mean to say this necessarily it's good to challenge

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yourself sometimes it really is fun like it can be it's like if you see something that's like how'd they do that go try go

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try to do it because that's a really fun exercise Reinventing and and re like uh

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retroactively engineering it's like okay heck it might get you that's how they

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did that might get you a couple viral hits on the Graham and the Tik Tok it might just do that that's what you're

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after but for your overall editing style I would I would caution you keep it

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classy keep it classy avoid the trends as much as much as possible um and

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settle on something that you consider Timeless MH and it's hard to know what

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we're going to like in the future yeah but you kind of look back at the past and say hey you know what this image was

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10 years ago it's it still holds up still good figure out why figure out why

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you think that still holds up yeah yeah stick with that I like that I like that that um those are some things that we've

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noticed and again mistakes that we've made Yeah in our photography careers that if we can just help you avoid those

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or just mitigate that learning curve a little bit that's kind of what we're here to do we're still making these mistakes daily again we've not arrived

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at any sort of place of hierarchy here in the photo World well I I I I stay all the time photography is a journey that

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does not have a destination no it doesn't it doesn't have a Finish Line not to me it's a never ending Journey if

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I ever get to the point well no that's true if I ever get to the point to where

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I look back and I'm like I've done it I mean I think I'll just quit might

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as well put a nail in the coffin right there yeah cuz I just I feel like there's never an end to what you can

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learn there's never an end to your skill sharpening your uh editing like you're

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always going to be refining and finding new ways to do things like yeah photography doesn't have a uh no

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photography is a great equalizer um in that way it will certainly humble you

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whenever you think that you've arrived at some sort of place yeah uh I I I've

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noticed that the other day when I logged into LinkedIn for the first time in a bit uh and I saw some like really good

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Studio photographers I've been feeling halfway decent about some of my photo work lately and I was myself like oh no I'm

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not no not on that level no I mean I know we talked about this off camera and

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again I've been exploring some different photography Avenues I recently started developing my own film in house and as

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soon as I think that I've learned it what do you know I botch four rolls yeah

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a film with not filling enough chemical in or I'll go see somebody who did successfully develop their film with no

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blemishes and I'm instantly humbled there you go photography is a great humbler great equalizer and these are

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some things that you might be able to avoid by listening yeah so some other

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things Jared hopefully this was helpful yeah hopefully this was helpful hopefully we can help you avoid a mistake that we made yeah and if you've

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got a question about any of these like Hey how do I know if it's too bright or too dark or how do I know my sets are

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inconsistent um we'd love to help you out reach out send us a message DM email yeah let us know let us know hey if you

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like the podcast send it somebody who else who you also think may like it I said that ter or could benefit from it

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or could benefit from it uh also just leave us a review I going say in return we ask of a couple of things yeah stars

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and bars leave us a rating rating and reviews good or bad we read them all that don't hurt our feelings yeah no you

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can't hurt my feelings on that note Jared the hard part o we will

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uh catch y'all later he didn't make that very hard y'all have a good one