Episode 43 - Beginner photography advice | How to Improve your photography

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on Facebook uh so it is it is there at least yeah and while you're at it go look up some Taiwanese country music

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yeah uh o that'd be interesting I probably wouldn't understand a word going back to that whole translation

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thing but there sure the Melodies would be fun anyways what we're going to talk about today is advice that we would give

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ourselves our younger selves our younger selves or in that case any new photographer our new infantile 6B 9 o

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baby photographer s uh yeah yeah I probably weighed a little more than that when I first seven so I was 87 there you

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go um but when you start photography MH and

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that's one good thing that's happened with social media it's brought awareness to this art yeah that

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uh didn't seem attainable right uh on many fronts due to availability cost all

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those things but photography has grown its user base tenfold yeah uh as a result of

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social media so that means there are a lot of new people getting into it every single day means there's a lot of advice out there some of it good some of it bad

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uh we may be some of the bad today we'll find we'll find out yeah I mean let us know but uh that's what we're going to talk about is advice we would give a new

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photographer because it is exceptionally daunting yeah to uh to

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to yeah absolutely it's hard it's hard to know because there's a lot to it it's

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hard to know what do I need to start with yep so we're going to do that but

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get us meet and ters so we're talking advice for our young baby infantile photographer selves today yeah what

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would I tell a new photographer uh and go well where to start's tough because

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again it's it's it's a lot but right I guess one of my biggest regrets is I did not

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start out shooting raw right R aw I don't think anybody does no I

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shot jpeg a little longer than I would have liked and what I mean by that is you're going to hear the word raw uh

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you're going to you're going to hear the the the word jpeg Etc just file structures file structures what you

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would what I would suggest someone do is basically from day one even if you're in

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auto mode Y which that's fine yeah at least change the setting from JPEG to

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Raw yes and why is that well so for me it comes down to if you are looking

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back on your work from six years ago maybe you get a Facebook memory whatever you hate the way that photo looked

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you're like oh I'm a much better editor now my my editing Styles changed a lot I

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would love to put my current knowledge and editing Style on that old composition maybe it was of a building

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that doesn't exist anymore you can't go retake the photo but you have the photo if you have it in a

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jpeg a lot of those colors and things are already baked in yeah so you've got

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you've got a different starting point than you would if you shot it raw down

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to flexibility raw is literally the raw output of the sensor it's going to be flatter a lot more flexible even if you

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made exposure mistakes in camera may have whatever that's going to be way more fixable way easier to fix if you

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shot it in raw so like I would suggest day one start shooting Yeah well yeah cuz on a JPEG if you shot it at 5600

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Kelvin and it actually needed to be 3200 the jpeg is baked like you cannot change that if you try to change your color

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slider it will nuke it yeah but on Raw if you need to change 3200 from 56 no

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problem because you've got all the data there from that file now just flexibility the the Temptation and the

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the the the pitfall when starting out M

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it is it is a much flatter image yeah so it is a little more uh daunting as a

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novice to to go to edit yeah go to edit it that raw image um but I would suggest

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start raw yeah a you're going to become an a better editor quicker and B you're going to love yourself or well let me

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rephrase that you're going to hate yourself less uh when you go to uh tweak that image from six years ago versus it

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being a JPEG I was going to say one of my favorite things to do as of late is go back to my old stuff and re-edit it

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um just and even from like fairly recently I know know lately over on the gram um and on the threads I've been

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digging up uh photos from our Chicago trip back in 2021 ah that was only three

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years ago but even three years later I'm re-editing things to you know what my style and my flavor is now I'm like okay

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it is a good thing that I shot raw because I have that flexibility to do those re-edits yeah so yeah that would

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be where I would start ASAP is possible shoot ASAP as possible um another thing

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and I'm going to follow you up um and this will be Point number two um with shooting raw ASAP as possible I

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would say find a mentor of sorts ASAP as possible yeah got my new camera I'm

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shooting raw yep um but I want to find somebody that can answer my questions

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yeah period like any any and all questions that I have whether it comes to composition whether it comes to

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exposure color theory things like that or maybe just style right find a mentor

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that you can plug into maybe you're a second shooter for them let's say they're wedding photographer and you want to do weddings go be a second

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shooter maybe they're a studio photographer go be their understudy yeah if you're if you're

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looking if you're if you're saying okay great find a mentor how do I do that

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well start with local groups local groups but specifically like approach people that

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you enjoy the work of that doesn't me that doesn't mean that the other people wouldn't be a good Mentor but it makes

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sense to if you enjoy if you like their Style Philip's work yep reach out to

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Phillip and ask him to be your Mentor don't ask Nancy because I mean maybe Nancy's not your thing but Nancy shoots

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macro flowers and you want to shoot Automotive it totally different find someone who shoots what you like find

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someone that shoots the style that you like Bingo ask them to be your Mentor um because chances are if they're doing

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that style well yeah and you like that style they're going to give you good advice to do that style well yeah so

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yeah find a mentor because what that's going to do is they're going to help you get out of Auto right and that's that's

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the natural progression you buy camera it's in Auto you don't understand the exposure triangle shoot it auto shoot it

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raw shoot it auto that's fine and you're slowly going to want to be like oh I

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need more control I need more control I'm getting pretty good results uh in Auto but I think it can be better and it

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can it can so like that person is going to allow you to to bounce questions off

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of them maybe that Mentor will even like come alongside you and say uh help you

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with critiquing help you hey you know what change your apture here yeah let's let's try changing your apture here you know whatever I think it I think it

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boils down to you know the the Wise Old Sage they're going to be able to tell you what changes to make to tell the

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story that you want to tell and and you just gave a pretty good example of like let's just take something as simple as aperture yeah if if I'm shooting

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portraits and I think we mentioned this on on an episode ago but if I'm shooting portra and I want to include some

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context you know for for you know my my subject maybe I maybe I close my

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aperture down a little bit to include a little more of the background or maybe I want to exclude the background because

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it's not pertinent to the story I can open up my aperture right um thus getting rid of the background a little

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bit more so they're going to be able to help you on the creative side of things make those creative decisions and tell

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you exactly how to manipulate your camera to do that well so one of the

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coolest things about having a mentor MH

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is not only can they help you in camera or on set but like they can look

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retroactively at a set of images and give you critiques right and that's one thing you got to learn if you're going

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to start this photography Journey you got to be open to open to critique listen anytime you make art which is

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basically what photography is is art a it's subjective y b you're going to have

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people com good bad they're going they're going to throw their two pennies in there period

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so you've got to be open to criticism and you've got to be able to accept that

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got to be able to take it got to be able to take that um so yeah that's one of

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the best things I think of having a mentor and my mentor early on uh was

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traditionally like a studio photographer yeah um and started in the film started

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in the film world M and help me with digital because that's what I started out with but he was able to help me a

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lot with like things like composition that's something that can happen after the fact I'm looking at your set from

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this family portrait or this family session it's like okay look don't if it

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basically the rule is if it bends don't cut it off don't cut it off don't cut your joints off you know go a

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little lower or or whatever or hey you need to really pay attention to your horizon here you're you're not level

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those are simple position that's thing that that trained eye can see that you as the shooter who's new probably aren't

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thinking about well it's so hard it's subconscious it's so hard like when

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you're first out there doing your thing remember everything yeah it's like okay wait wait exposure uh composition uh

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shut like it's it's so many things so naturally things are going to lapse oh yeah and that photographer that you are

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using as a mentor is going to be able to help you weed through those which don't worry fair warning like those things are going to lapse your whole career uh yeah

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you're going to have brain farts yeah uh I had brain farts yesterday on a production so it happens probably have

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one tomorrow if I keep breathing um but yeah find a mentor that's a great piece of advice yeah it can be intimidating to

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uh to reach out to reach out and a lot of people there's like this stigma that uh if if you're a good photographer or a

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seasoned photographer you're not approachable and some aren't I was say

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there's out there there's some Richards uh but for the most part it's pretty supportive Community yeah I would agree with that find a mentor hit us with

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another one uh starting out once again shoot everything y don't say no

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right naturally what's going to happen this is this is almost inevitably how it transpires every time if you you find

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some things if you are someone who Maybe started out with your iPhone which probably did because it's the camera you

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had y you're like I want to take this a step further so you buy your first camera whatever it is you're going to start to have people reach out and say

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hey you have a camera you got a camera could you come shoot my kids third

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birthday party I would love to have photos but I forget to take photos and I want to be present can you come take

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pictures you just bought a camera and I just started my inhome goat milking at

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4:37 a.m. Farm come shoot my goat milking session say yes to everything yes that's going to be controversial for

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a lot of people for whatever reason shoot everything yeah up until a point because people are saying you got a

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niche down you got a niche down you got a niche down and that is true right eventually eventually eventually you

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can't know and my opinion a what kind of Market exists for XYZ style if the

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market what you like and what you're good at yeah for instance again and I've said this before but like you may have

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this aspiration of shooting these Grand Landscapes well most Landscapes are

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going to be taken at one or two times a day M morning or afternoon sunrise

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well in order to get some of those landscape shots at Sunrise you're GNA be out super duper early GNA be out super

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duper early walking through in the dark or super duper late which back to your car in the dark back in the dark you may

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learn like I don't like this this is sketchy probably not going to make a good landscape photographer but you may

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be the best but there's a market for landscape photography so like you need to shoot everything so that you learn

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those things it's like learn what you like I thought I love shooting cars yeah turns out I don't turns out I don't

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or you may think ah you know what I'm going to be a wedding photographer you may hate being on your feet all day probably not going to make a good

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wedding photographer you don't learn those things right without shooting them without shoo you got to sh shoot

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everything so that you can start to narrow down it's like I love I love this style of Photography yeah now you know

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yeah you know and then at at that point in time if if you do decide to take it from the hobbyist level to a

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professional level I think as a hobbyist shoot anything and everything like it don't matter it's whatever you like and whatever you see but if you do decide to

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take it to a more professional level that's when you can start honing in yeah um because you do it's important to find

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a couple of things that you are absolutely known for yeah um that way people who are looking for that thing

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know that you're the go-to well and the caveat to that is you know it's it's it's a bit of a it's a bit of a scary

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situation it's like are you telling me that I can only shoot Automotive if I become known for a no no professionally

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sure what I'm saying is go shoot whatever you know you wouldn't you wouldn't necessarily post that in

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your uh professional portfolio it's like I'm not going to show this newborn

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session that I did to Porsche and all my F1 photography like it's it's just not what you would do sense no you can still

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shoot it and I suggest doing that I shoot all kinds of things that I never publ size or or like Market essentially

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um so yeah Niche down later yeah but that doesn't mean that you can only

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shoot that bingo bingo so and and on that too um I know in my last point I

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said you know when you take it from hobbyist to professional level I'm going to stay kind of on that mentality here but the minute that you decide to go

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from hobbyist to professional level I would recommend also getting yourself a pretty good website yeah um and and more

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importantly getting a way to drive traffic to that website um with marketing efforts um it's very important

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to have a website in today's environment now yes social media is Big um and I

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think a lot of people consider Instagram even to be their portfolio of sorts but I will say this when you start getting

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inquiries from let's just say larger entities or entities that have larger

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budgets Etc they ask nine times out of 10 where's your website or they've

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already done that research before they or they've seen your website which means with your website and this is where the

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niching gets pretty important you need to be pretty specific on your website what you do and and we've experienced this firsthand um I mean we've paid

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people to tell us hey I don't know what you do I like your website you've got pretty imagery but I don't know what you

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do so find find somebody to build you a website or if you can build build a

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website build a good one learn how to Market it um and and be pretty specific with it the the uh Pitfall there that

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you kind of you kind of touched on and I'll just take it from a tech perspective is everybody's like well

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Instagram and Facebook's my portfolio that's great great post your work there post your I'm not saying don't post your

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work there put your Instagram Link at the bottom of your absolutely here's the problem with it though you are truly and

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I've lost an entire Facebook account that I had since 2009 yep lost it yep I

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got hacked yeah the hacker posted evidently inappropriate things which I still to this day have no clue what it

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was I don't either I never saw those things well here's the thing though you I I tried appeals I tried I tried all

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the routes to wasn't having it he didn't believe you to regain access to that account they said nobody still to this

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day and I never will I'll never have that account again so what's the danger in that well if you if you're only using

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Instagram or any other social media platform as your only yeah source of uh

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portfolio yeah you're literally a hack away or an algorithmic change away from

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that being effective or even reachable what what if that app goes away take all the people who were on Vine Vine was

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massive Vine was booming and then all of a sudden Vine was gone imagine all those folks so so I've heard it a lot of times

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in reference to email list yeah you own your domain you own your website you own your website you own your list yeah

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that's where you need to ultimately be putting stock in now as a funnel the

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easiest and and today at this point social media it's it's free right in most cases it's great top of funnel it's

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a great exposure situation the people who are very serious about like hiring you in the future though they're going to ultimately look for your website if

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they on your website that may be a red flag you may not get reached out to yeah I was going to say especially if you're

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spe specifically on the photography side if if you're looking to get into like agency work like you know people are hiring you to go do corporate gigs

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things like that yeah um they're going to want a website portfolio yeah Bar None So yeah get you a good website and

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Market it there you go drive traffic to it very important Well yeah if you just have a

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website I'm here and uh nobody ever visits it then I would say it's not very

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useful right right not very useful not very useful at all moving on this one is

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interesting okay it's kind of the last it's kind of the last point I guess we'll make our last thought

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here the challenge when starting out in photography you're going to want to

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start editing your images specifically if you're shooting raw you're going to want to start editing your images more than like an Instagram filter right

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you're going to want to take it a step further so you're going to be in Lightroom Capture One photos more than our blue color look whatever you're

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going to you're going to want to start uh Al in your digital pixels

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there finding your style is it's it's a bit daunting yeah

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um and here's one thing I'll also say your style will probably change constantly and what do you mean by style

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Jared what are a couple things that that signate or signature a style so yeah so

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so your style is basically the way that your all of your images are going to

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have subtle similarities hopefully hopefully hopefully you're not overwise all those things right so the

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way that your greens appear mhm should look very similar set to set week to

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week month to month right like that's going to be your style hopefully you you start to become consistent that's the

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goal because that is also something that I think a lot of people book based upon

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it's like I love the way they compose their images actually so much to the point now and I I've seen this on

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another podcast so much to the point now that I know in The Wedding Game specifically photographers are actually

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having to put in a stylistic clause because Brides you know they're hiring

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for your style sure well what that does is that protects you from them coming back and saying well I don't like the way that you edit these I need to

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re-edit I've edited these for this way for years for this style right right so they're having to throw in Clauses now

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but that that's how important your style can become once you start moving into especially the profession Environ well

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so so it's daunting to to land on your style you don't know where to go um I

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would suggest researching photographers yeah that you like you like right and if

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it's in the style that you like it's even easier like for instance um I I have always loved the way that Evan rant

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yeah processes as him process phographer his images his colors are rich they're

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saturated they pop off of the screen and off the page he did not fall victim to

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that Moody desaturated Trend that was on Instagram about three four five years

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ago yeah where the only colors that you saw were orange and black he stuck to he

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stuck to his guns and his images have always been very consistent yeah that is

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Evan's style same with like one of my other favorite photographers to watch on YouTube James pops oh yeah pops good now

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his his uh his comes into color but it also comes into exposures mhm and he if

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you watched any of his videos you'll understand he explains like a lot of times his Skies he let them go hot they

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almost look blown yeah they go hot they almost look blown they weren't captured blown because I've seen his raws and

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he's talked about this multiple times he raises them he raises them and it's his style and he'll explain exactly why he

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says look if it doesn't add to the subject then in my opinion it subtract s

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from the yeah it's not a part of the story so like if this Sky being beautifully exposed and colored

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subtracts from the person in this photo then it needs then it's it's right who cares how beautiful it is or how

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beautiful that blue is or whatever his whole thing is like no it's going to be it's going to essentially be an element

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that's not in the photo you know and that's consistent all the way up into Hollywood I mean there's a lot of directors and DPS in Hollywood where

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same thing like you'll see Windows go hot you'll see Skies go hot because they are not worried about that as a part of

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their story if it's a part of the story sure it's going to be there but if it's not not there but find your style um

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find the way that you like to edit compose and process your images or

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somebody else and then try to emulate that yeah absolutely emulate but don't copy like and and and a lot of people

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will sell Lightroom presets that's a great way to good starting point it's a good starting point what you're going to

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need to quickly learn though is like if you bought this preset from say James Pops I don't he sells presets but let's

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say he did sell presets maybe he does let's say he sells presets you're going to start by a

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slapping that on your photos and calling it done and calling it done because it's like oh this looks good but what you're

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going to want to learn to do manipulate it is is understand how it's achieving

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the look that it is and you're like you know what for where I live yeah this doesn't

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work this color isn't it's not it's I don't live in Dubai I don't live in Eastern Europe that's

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another thing to caution if you if you are constantly being fed work from say

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out in California from photographers out there or in uh the the uh Utah or something

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like that you need to understand they don't really have greens there right they have all but if you're a

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photographer based in East Tennessee Yeah by George everything's green except for right now CU we've not had rain rain

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or in the fall we got a lot of color a lot of color so you may need to like proceed with ction in the sense of if I

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bought this pack from this dude in California it may not be a one toone translation uh for my photos here in

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East Tennessee or I'll save you 20 bucks right here um because I've seen these L packs and going back to that trend of a

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few years ago of like all you're seeing is orange and black and everything else is gone I'll save you 20 bucks you just rock all them saturation sliders down

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and you're there yeah you're there for free anyways but again find three four

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five photographers that you enjoy the work of and reverse math it what you're going to learn is like okay why do I like James's editing

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style why do I like this gu why do I like this this and this you're going to slowly start to see similarities it's like oh their skies are a little warmer

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or you know their colors are this right it's the way they do their greens Etc you're going to start to learn those

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things all those things just become the ingredients to your pie yeah that's that's the way I like to look at it if

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if I like if I like this guy's pie feeling I'm going to put his pie feeling into my pie if if I like this guy's

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crust I'm going to make his crust for my pie the quicker you can land on your

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style and the more consistent you can be that's a big thing I I it's and I look

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back at all my old work and I look back at new I currently see new photographers work set to set there's so much

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variation and I know that that they're just they're just trying to dial it in but the quicker that you can learn your

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style uh and be cohesive the better I would we' talked about Trends before

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another word of caution avoid Trends in my opinion now if you like the way that a

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trend uh handles this certain color that's something that you can maybe implement but like Trends are going to

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come and go B you find something that's Timeless find something that's that's where I always try to land is something

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that's Timeless I I the the last thing that I want is someone who paid me money

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to photograph whatever 10 years from now looks back and it's

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like oo I look like Skittle wow why was the well sweetheart that was the TR that

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was the thing back then right be something you know try to be something Timeless that's something that I would

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try to to to to caution you Timeless and consistent Timeless and consistent which this just popped into my head on on

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consistency specifically and obviously other photographers do this we do this um but once you find like let's say a

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set that you really like make yourself a preset that way you're not editing from scratch every single time yeah make

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yourself a preset and let that be your starting Point uh for whatever set you've got coming down the pipeline that's that's something that it it

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helped me tremendously the minute that I started creating my own presets yeah um

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that gives you a base that you know is going to be consistent every single time you can tweak it from there yeah you can

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tweak it from there uh but it's just a good starting point uh and every set's going to be different based upon time of

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day all the colors in the back like all those things it's not season it's rarely going to be a complete like Dro and go

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it's never going to be a one for one a one for one but you could at least have consistent got your um because again

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like if I look at if I look at um say Bonnie's work I know we talked about her

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a lot lately her images are consistent yes every single

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time color composition all of those things and so that's important

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because it it's important because if someone is looking at your work and they're wanting to give you their hard

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hard earned dollar for for photographs they're going to want to basically have them you know uh

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placed in as a variable well they want your style to be represented from what they saw I saw this set of images I need

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you to substitute me essentially in that because this is this is what I love I

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want this on my wall I want this for my memory um so yeah the quicker you can land on your style mhm and get it

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consistent and get it consistent the better agreed agreed the better uh it's

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also really important this is kind of a bonus tip I would also suggest look back at your work let some

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time transpire that time variable varies but like 6 months 6 weeks whatever look

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back at your work and give yourself honest criticism give yourself an audit give yourself

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very honest criticism don't I mean you can give yourself Grace if you want to but this is your chance to improve in my

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opinion right it's like okay what do I not like about the way that I did this set six months ago um or I mean

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use your customer feedback if you're if you're sending out sets and you're getting people asking for re-edits um

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there may be something that either there's a communication issue and you've not communicated your style onto what

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they thought your style was y or maybe there is some room for improvement um use use feedback yeah I can look back at

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send it to mentors have them give you feedback that's I used to literally share cataloges Lightroom cataloges with

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uh Steve Tucker he was my mentor and he would go through and he would pick

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through like six images that he wanted to offer advice on yep and that was so

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helpful because he was able to say maybe try doing this different here

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compositionally or whatever and and I had it in my own work I'm like okay yes I could have done that why did

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I not do that let mean catalog this do this better the next time just give give

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yourself an audit but be honest that's the big thing that's and if you can't be honest with yourself send it to

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somebody somebody that will give you honest somebody that will be honest with you and and by honest I don't mean mean

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not ugly but very objectively looking at your work yeah like hey you're it's a

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little soft here y little soft here I see you shot it at f1.4 was that because somebody told you you needed to shoot

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everything wide open Maybe you bought that 1.2 lens by golly you're going to use every single one of them aperture

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blades just you know maybe we're going to open them the heck up stop that down a bit you know uh those things come with

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experience when I first bought a my the first lens I bought was the nifty50 1.8

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that sucker lived on 1.8 it well it lived on 1.8 aperture for a long time

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until I realized this isn't necessary I was going to say you do your first you do your first uh session where you've

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got like a family of five and Dad's in focus and everyone who's like 2 Ines behind him they're just totally gone

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yeah you learn those things you're like oh I need a little more depth field here just because this lens can do this

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doesn't mean I have to does mean I should or should there you go so yeah uh

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hopefully we'll kick that out again hopefully this video falls into the good

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advice section because there's a lot of good and bad out there these are just things that we've experienced that have

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helped us along the way um and that we would feel or would help others there's no yeah there's no blanket right there's

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no BL beginner photography ad or just photography advice period you'll hear people say Niche down Niche down yeah

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that eventually eventually that's not good well in my opinion that's not good advice to give a beginner no no no no

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that's not good advice to give a that that comes down the road once you work on style interest Market things like

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that so this was geared to hopefully yeah help a beginner help set a path forward for a 8 pound 7

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o baby photographer Garrett yeah what would tell yourself that's what I tell

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myself Jared speaking of telling people things there are some things that our audience can tell us what are those uh

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if they liked this yeah or if they didn't or if they didn't like this again going back to criticism being able to

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take it all we can take it yeah I can take it we can take it I can take it I'm pretty thick skinned not going hurt my

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feelings I can also delete it if you're ugly um I mean I I'm free to let you say what you want to I don't care public for

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yeah just leave us review um if you have something that you would tell ADV or a

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beginner photograph in the comments below com I'd love to hear some some feedback maybe something we missed but

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you know what something I really struggle with starting out yeah this was it give Garrett some advice yeah I'm

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open to it and stars and bars we also enjoy feedback any feedback if you've like this video want to hear slse more

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like it in the future consider subscribing uh also maybe you know a beginner photographer uh sh them a link

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yeah send this over to them this hopefully was helpful I know it would have been helpful to have heard the things that we talked about today for

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myself and we didn't get technical we stayed away from like the triangle and all that that's a whole another whole

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another discussion whole Nuance absolutely um but yeah hopefully this was helpful I think it will be Jared on

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that note um here's the hard part oo uh we will see you in the next one hey did

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not make that hard y'all have a good one see y'all