Episode 4 - The Importance of Perspective guest: Justus Stewart

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Anyway, brother, here's Wonderwall.

Good morning, good morning, good afternoon.

Whenever it is you chose to watch slash, listen to this thing.

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Wherever you find yourself in life, oh, that's a good one, That is a good one.

Hopefully it's in motion though.

Oh, certainly in motion.

Speaking of something that we're putting into motion or attempting to put into motion, fill me in.

Well, through a series of sidebar personal requests we have, we've noticed some interest and some prints of some photos.

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And that is something that I have done a very piss poor job of printing my work because every time I do breakdown and print some work, I'm always blown away.

There you should always print your work.

Blown away at how good.

Or like there's something about actually holding something tangible, physical, created, as opposed to looking at it on some sort of screen.

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We hold the it's not back lit.

At that point you should print your work.

Man, I do horrible job at it too.

I buy other people's prints.

You should print your work.

I'm never confident enough to print my work for some reason.

I think you should print your work because that's the only way you're going to learn.

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I think I'm.

Glad you said that because we are absolutely going to be printing work.

We have been challenged by ourselves and at the recommendation of some of our followers, some of the public, to go capture some local landmarks around our area around the tri-cities in northeastern Tennessee, well, because we mentioned our love for the area.

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Correct in one of the past episodes and landmarks.

Like people can be here today, gone tomorrow.

And if you don't have it documented through a photo, then I don't know.

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It's kind of hard to remember.

I think it's cool too to show it in its current state because.

With most landmarks, you see them when they were built, you see them as they were being used over the years.

You know what we think about old general stores?

We have the the feed store down below my house here, right?

But to see them in their current state, good or bad, I believe, is a very, very good way to close this, the story of that landmark, where it sits now and then eventually, if it does go away, if it does go away.

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But here's the cool thing to me about a photo.

Let's take Wells Feed Store, for example.

Let's go snap some photos of that.

Yes, paint it in the best light we can.

That photo, a singular photo, is going to mean something different to every person.

To say an 80 year old.

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They're going to immediately remember the heyday of when it was functional.

They remember going there as a kid, as a kid.

The kid who sees it, that maybe passes it or has passed it on the bus or something, they're going to remember it in its current state.

In high school we used to go throw rocks at it.

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That singular photo can invoke so many different memories and thoughts for.

People, right?

Right.

So yeah, what we're going to do is we're taking requests right now asking for recommendations.

We got a few.

We got a few, We do have a few.

We would like some more.

We may not be able to get to all of them this first round, but what we're trying to do is we are setting out to Document Preserve and capture through photo some of our local landmarks that basically people want to see enshrined and these photos will be available for purchase over at Motion Creative dot media.

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I love that website.

It's pretty good website.

I like it bad.

Back up here then, our first one.

Definitely better than the first one.

Still made by the same dudes as we mentioned in episode one.

Same dudes, just new name, new new mission.

Yeah, go grab a print whenever we get those available online.

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Motion Creative dot media.

So yeah, we're going to.

We'll let you know when they're done, but in the meantime, seriously, go go.

Let us know through some sort of DM comment, message, whatever what you would like to see.

Captured.

And we're going to do our darndest to to get those done.

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Be on the lookout.

Speaking of capturing things, we have a we have a guest here today.

Capturing 1st guest.

Yeah, capturing some BTS right now.

This is a monumental moment because we're not capturing our own BTSBTS.

For those who don't know, that means behind the scenes.

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Behind the scenes, which everybody seems to love.

And we're going to bring our guest out here in a second.

But first let's let's take a break.

Let's thank our sponsor for today.

And after the break, we'll bring our guest on.

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It's got a good little Jingle to it.

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We also want to partner with Manscaped.

I'm so thankful that they're eventually going to be a sponsor here on the channel.

This is petition I think #3, possibly petition #3 for Manscaped.

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It's going to be a real fun time.

There you go.

Jared Meat and Taters, who's our guest today, We're going to He brought us chicken minis today.

Let's get to the chicken minis.

The chicken minis.

Let's get to the little chickens, The chicken Littles.

Ooey.

6:08

Let's chop it up.

Who's our guest today?

Justice Stewart, from Not Just Media.

So you got to pronounce it that way.

Welcome, because I think that's important.

Wow, you guys are pros.

I wouldn't go that far.

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I was just belly laughing before you started.

Then you guys, I don't even I blinked and you guys were in this beautiful podcast conversation.

You even dove into something really heartfelt with those landmarks and memories and.

He's the emotional one.

I'm a crier.

He's a crier.

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Hopefully no one on the podcast ever sees that.

But I I I'm a crier.

I can't wait till the day they do.

We might get some sponsorships that way from some emotional support groups.

Ooey ooee.

Just saying we.

Were like.

Kleenex Tissues Hey, real quick.

Speaking of support groups, we shot an event.

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We did, all three of us right, The Collective plus Bradley, we were.

There and Bradley was.

Plus, Bradley can't count Bradley out.

He sure wasn't support groups, Tears, Community.

I mean, Dang it had it all.

I still crack up at that because it was not the not the support group that we would have ever thought would ever reach out to three dudes.

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Yeah, yeah.

In a good way.

I mean in a good way.

Like obviously we have talents in our industry and we know what we're doing.

But just the the group itself, Strong mom, strong mom, This is a blast.

It was fun.

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I got a lot more out of that than I ever thought I would.

Think I got a lot more appreciation, yes.

Out of that I mean obviously, like physiologically, a lot of the principles do not apply, but on this side of the tracks?

It's on this side of the tracks.

On this side of the equation, I have a new respect.

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But the first thing I had to do when I got home was apologize to my wife.

And that's exactly what I did.

I told she did The night we got that she she she made it even harder on me.

When I went to apologize to my wife, she was.

I basically tried to get away with the 2 words I'm sorry and sorry for.

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What?

Yeah, I had to.

She like, kept crying it out of me.

Then he started crying.

He definitely started crying.

I actually no, I didn't cry, but.

It it it was hard.

I was met with the a a quick reverberated Well, yeah, from my life.

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I've been trying to tell you this since we've been together.

Duh.

I mean, so I clearly I don't pick up on signs and signals at times I tell my wife, You have to be very clear with me on what your intents, what the instructions are, anything above, because my brain sometimes processes things.

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You want me to do the laundry?

Just tell me.

Yeah, I'll go do it.

But don't.

Actually, touchy.

Let's not.

Let's not encourage her on this one, guys.

I'm horrible.

Hey, we'll be right back.

After the next break, after we cut this whole segment out, No, I'm.

I'm horrible with laundry.

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My wife knows it.

I know it.

I try to make up for that deficiency in other areas of the household.

I'm I'm trying.

Listen, it is a give and take.

It is a two person job for sure.

But yeah, Justice, what did you think about it?

The event Yeah.

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What were your?

Thoughts.

I thought it was a blast.

I think I didn't realize the close quarters we would be staying in.

Oh man, but you mean you didn't ask for the double queen bed?

Oh, what 4 dudes?

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What?

No.

And I mean, and our Waffle House adventure.

Oh my gosh, I mean can't be ignored.

I'm still looking for that clip though.

Oh, I yeah, I got to send it to you.

You've got it.

OK.

We need that because I think the world needs.

To see that.

I don't know if the world needs to see that.

I believe it was a party somewhere in the USA.

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Possibly.

Have you been it clear to your viewers that everywhere Garrett goes, he not only meets someone, but stirs something up in people that get them to do things?

I bet you they didn't realize they would do.

Think of Longhorn the next night.

10:04

Yeah, after waffle.

Wow.

Again, my wife specifically mentioned that.

She said you had a random woman come over and high five you like, what's that all about?

I was like, listen, she was like.

Mid 50s, early 60s, celebrating life.

She come over for double high fives like I had to double high fiber as pure happenstance.

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How many birthdays were at this Longhorn?

There was like 17, that is.

True.

Remember when we walked in and we're like, where'd Carico?

And we turned the corner and he's like.

Some high five and another birthday table because they had.

Shirts.

They had matching shirts.

This man was turning 50.

And I I stopped.

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I said.

I got to ask which which one of y'all is the birthday person?

And they're like, it's the birthday man right here.

I'm like my man.

My man the.

Matching shirts is next level I I can't wait to get to that.

Level.

I don't know what age it happens at 50, evidently.

Possibly.

It's monumental.

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I can't wait for that day.

That's going to be fun.

And the name that's associated with those shirts.

Oh my God.

Also, be so fun.

Yeah, everybody had their own alias on the back.

I'm talking about the name of the event.

Lest I remind you.

Oh wait, Bradley, if you're listening, just go ahead and.

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Close your ears.

How many times have we heard this?

We're trying to do it podcast.

You don't have to hear it again, but lest I remind you, you'll know the event name when it when it occurs.

Yeah.

But yeah.

So you enjoyed it, right?

Other than the close quarters.

It really was a good time.

The event was actually incredible.

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I think it was fun shooting.

I mean, shot on some cool cameras.

Oh yeah, the 70s.

Yeah, Yeah.

Which using those that was, that was that was nice.

They're very handy in in a a run and gun environment like that.

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The ergonomics of them are their top notch.

At what point in time did you realize that you wanted to hop in the cold plunge tanks with one of those bad boys and just get in the action?

I feel like they could have taken it.

They feel very robust.

They do, except for their.

Top handle screens.

Their top handle?

Yeah, yeah, that too.

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Sorry, Cannon, I guess you won't be sponsoring the podcast.

Well, I wonder why?

What happened to your coffee cup there?

Where's your oh the the handle?

Where'd that go?

The absence of the handle.

The absence of the handle.

His dad, Bod, got too strong inside.

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As the mug entails, whenever you're dealing with Dad Bod, you also have Dad's strength.

Oof day.

That is something.

Hey, you'll find out I.

Don't have it yet.

You'll get it.

You're about to.

It happens overnight.

Thank.

You.

Thank you.

Thank.

You future dad.

Future dad.

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You're going to be a strong dad.

So, so we've we've tiptoed around something that I I want to get your perspective on.

OK, we, we both, all three collectively stated that we gained a new perspective from the strong mom.

Yes.

And you're fixing to get a new perspective at some point in the future with dad strength and just life in general.

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Just life in general.

So yeah, what is your perspective on Live?

Cuz I know off camera you were telling us that was something that you're really passionate about.

You have a tagline that you like to reference, Yeah?

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Can we see it on the shirt?

Is it on the shirt?

Yeah, check out that sweet shirt.

Yeah, this is.

That is not just a sweater.

It's also not just a sweater.

It's a champion sweater because you're rich.

It's oh, that'd be a cool sponsor.

Not just as a brand has been something that I.

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I I don't have it all figured out and I'm working on branding and the story mission statement.

I think all those things are important because anything I do, I want to do with a reason, right?

I care about asking the question why and being able to answer it when people ask me.

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So not just is a work in progress, but the thought started with just not wanting to be put in a box and.

Very fair.

Whenever I get into situations or meet someone new, I think the shift in perspective I want to have is that person I meet, let's call it a barista, is much more than just a barista, right?

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And I think I'm just going to talk for myself.

I can get stuck in a rut where I, you know, drive through lady at Chick-fil-A, barista, like, just all these things.

That's all we see at Tom's.

So not just came from this idea that man, there's so much more to people.

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Not just Warista, not just a Chick-fil-A drive through attendant, not just a.

And then when you get into the company space on creating films and videos and commercials, I kind of have that same thought in mind when I work with someone.

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It's like this is not one.

This is not just a business deal, right?

Yeah, I want to help you tell your story because you're not just a business and you owner of the business.

You might have a family.

You might be.

You might be a dad.

You might be struggling with something like Dives even deeper.

And deep, deeper and well, at the end of the day, they have a soul.

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Yeah, they have a soul.

Yeah.

So I I don't think I've, I don't think I've done the idea justice.

I see what you did there.

But.

It's a word there.

Did you name yourself?

Yes, yeah, yeah, I did, I thought.

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So my name when I was 10.

I thought, so I.

Did not.

I did not so that that kind of something that stuck with me from the event was a quote from Lauren that I guess I had always known but had never heard it put that way and and so it had never provoked this thought.

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For me, the perspective of community is something that kind of growing up you're maybe unless you play a team sport, it's it's not it's not encouraged at all.

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She referenced specifically.

She's like, so think about it.

You're in school.

Yeah.

Tests, tests, homework.

If you look over at your neighbor or ask your neighbor for advice or help, whatever, that's considered cheating.

You cheated, which is you're reprimanded for.

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But in life you can't do it without other people.

Community is so important, so powerful.

So when she said I was like, gosh, I never realized, yeah, you kind of are ingrained and trained to sort of shy away from help, asking for help.

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That's why I struggle asking for help personally.

Like, I really struggle asking for help.

I don't know, for whatever reason.

Maybe it's because I feel like I'm burdening someone at that point.

I'm inconveniencing someone because they're having to drop what they're doing to help me do something.

But yeah, the power of community is is.

16:45

Awesome.

And I think creatively too, and this is just my observation of you as your business partners.

You genuinely have an interest in gaining knowledge and skills.

So I think it's twofold.

I mean, you don't want to burden somebody, but I think you genuinely want to be able to at least at least know what you're doing for a lot of different situations.

17:04

Sometimes I'm the opposite of that.

Sometimes I would rather just go ahead and find the person that knows how to do it.

And I think both have advantages and disadvantages and we've talked about that, but.

It's funny because with strong Mom specifically going back to community, they are recognizing that as individuals, they are strong.

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They they are these boss babes as as they call each other, but they're also recognizing the fact that they still need each other.

Oh yeah, we still need community.

We desire community.

It's it's ingrained in us by design to be communitive people.

17:40

And so they're they're recognizing that.

And I think that's glorious because again, in school, growing up, it's not encouraged.

No, Unless you're on a team sport.

It's it's a very I, me, my society that we live in.

You you do it.

You do it, You do it, you do it.

Which is kind of important because you mentioned the barista, right?

17:58

And that is something that I learned there that they really try to help with.

The mind shift of those ladies is you are more than your career, right?

You are more than any of your other identifiers from the outside.

That have been placed on you.

So that goes back to the perspectives you're talking about.

18:16

Even with being a mom?

Yeah, I mean true.

That's that's huge.

That becomes such a soul part of their life and.

A lot of them feel like they lose their identity.

Yeah, they they specifically mentioned that.

And I remember one of the ladies very vividly.

Her story.

She had so much weight from her youth.

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These things that were placed upon her because she had watched examples from her, her parents, her leadership and man, that woman had the weight of the world on her shoulders.

And I I think I remember the coach saying let go of that like you, you have the option to step off of that pedestal that other people have placed you on, which I thought was pretty powerful.

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I thought that was powerful for her.

And and I could tell immediately once she once she chewed on that a little bit, she's like.

I I can step off of this, I can be more than what these people have told me.

I am.

Not only can I, but I need to.

I need.

To I need to for my sanity, and for the sake of the sanity of the others around me.

19:15

I left that.

I left that weekend inspired.

That, I mean, I truly did.

It was fun shooting, and maybe the nerd technical side was a good time, but sitting there listening to all those talks, like I feel like I have a lot of things in my life that I take away as not a mom, right?

19:31

But I think I can be stronger.

I think they're at least for my wife.

They're applicable.

So they're applicable, absolutely.

But on you specifically, so you talk about perspective on the business side of things.

At what point in time did did you have that realization that that perspective was so important?

Like is this something that you brought from maybe your upbringing or your day-to-day life and and brought it into business or is it something that you realized in business and are now bringing out it out to life?

19:56

Like what?

What was that process like when you realize that perspective?

And perception was so important to you.

Man, that's tough.

I I think it's probably goes back to the fact that I tried so many different jobs so.

20:12

What did you do?

Out of high school, I I did go to college and I it wasn't much schooling.

It was more so because I wanted to play soccer.

So I played two years of soccer and then at some point I realized I'm not going to go any further.

20:27

This is it.

That's fine.

I'm happy with where I'm at.

But then the empty gap was I haven't done anything for school.

I barely showed up for classes.

I was just just made myself eligible enough to play not no, no desires to study anything.

20:45

So then after after school I I continued to school part time and started picking up jobs and I I feel like I've done.

Everything from just manual labor landscaping to painting fire hydrants, and to in Nash Vegas, in Nash Vegas.

21:02

Yeah, I mean, I've done that.

I but I've traveled around doing that and he pointed out.

A specific.

A hydrated out a hydrating.

Hydrant.

I painted that hydrant, he said.

I can't say that.

I can't say that I'm jealous.

That's a perspective that I can't, I'm jealous, relate.

21:18

To but all the way to, I mean retail and I I had a stretch where I was like, man, I.

I'm going to be a nurse.

I want to take care of people.

I'm I had this whole healthcare side, did not know that about you.

So I think the perspectives maybe that evolved as I tried so many things and I couldn't it maybe it's just the desire of me not to be put in a box.

21:39

I can't just do one thing, and I think that's probably where it grew into when I started the my company to.

I kind of nailed it down and then I ended up in a working for someone full time that was in the video production world and that helped me.

21:55

Maybe at some point I needed to narrow it down a little bit, dial it in.

We talked about in one of our episodes, Yeah.

Nation.

Nation.

Nation.

Nation.

Nation.

Nation.

Nation.

Nation.

Nation.

Nation.

Nation.

Nation.

It's nation.

In Tennessee, it's nation.

Period.

Nation or nation?

22:11

Hey, that was not very Pure Michigan of you.

I'm proud of you on that.

On that topic specifically on that topic specifically of of niching down and because I believe that you're not just XYZI.

22:26

Do want to talk though about your career in video because it's it's pretty cultured.

I would say you have the live broadcast background, which you're still a part of.

You still go out and and do some really cool freelance work.

Don't know how much detail you can give on it because you're like super high up, have so many like different clearance levels it's not even funny.

22:45

I think you're paid.

For Spotify to take down your podcast or anything like that, we're probably going to get cancelled one day anyways.

But on the other side of that, you have started to carve your way into the horror film genre.

Oh my gosh.

23:00

And it's no, it's.

Whether you want to or not, it's beautiful to me you're you're on short.

I should have laid down the rules of things you can't touch.

Listen, you're on short horror film #2, buddy.

You're a horror film director.

I don't like horror films, but you shoot em.

Why?

I just see AI see a gap.

23:18

I I don't know.

I see a in this certain contest that this guy puts on right Buff nerds.

I just see a an opportunity.

Shout out Jacob Owens and the boys.

It worked well for me the first time.

Yeah, you went viral.

You went viral?

Right.

And that was all because of an opportunity, not because I like horror every time.

23:35

Whenever I work with, I work with Elizabeth and Sandra House, 2 actors and they're always actresses.

Actresses.

They're actresses.

Well, that well, I mean that's up to them I guess.

I think it is up to them.

Sure.

Whatever.

All right.

So when you work with these 2 ladies, When you when you work with sondra.

23:54

Elizabeth, they're always pushing to, oh, could we add more blood here?

And maybe the maybe this happens and maybe it's a bit.

Liz.

Liz.

Liz.

No, no, no, no, no.

I want to be scary, but right.

I don't want it to be scary.

I think I don't, but it's hilarious because you're you're not just a horror film director.

24:14

Oh my God.

You're a horror film director that has your own set of horror film boundaries, which is hilarious, but it's great.

It's great because you add your quirkiness to horror films.

We're going to have to add a not just counter from Garrett because that is his favorite thing to say.

I love justice.

You're not just a horror film director.

24:30

You're not just a live broadcast guru.

You're not just an influencer.

You're not viral influencer, by the way.

I can't.

I I honestly though.

OK, so so I think I.

When's the next break?

Now, for real, I think.

I think the fact that you just stated that you don't necessarily want to do horror, I think that echoes and further accentuates the fact that you don't like to be put in a box.

24:57

Right, I don't.

It might be a problem.

That is a genre that I wouldn't know what to do like that.

I know a couple of guys in the industry.

You are actually on a poster.

You're on a poster called I would.

That's a horror film, right?

25:13

That's a horror film, an indie horror film.

That's a horror film.

But it's based on true story in my den in the corner of my den.

Here it's a published DP.

At this point IMDb accredited for all you that are concerned I framed.

It I didn't know that I framed it all two scenes that I shot in that movie somehow landed me an accreditation.

25:33

Where are you going?

To.

Where you put that up, I don't know.

Sarah's pretty sketched by it.

She said that I'm not allowed to put it like.

Anywhere.

Like to share the name of what it is.

Loud Pig Lady.

Yeah, it's based on a true story.

Based on true story.

You can go look at it.

You can actually look up the story.

We the two scenes that I shot were recreations of the original news broadcast.

25:53

That was my only hand in that movie.

So shout out to Preacher Boy Productions.

All AJ and Adam and the boys out there, they got it on the platforms.

They got the distribution deals and they boosted that thing and they are still boosting it.

And I say awesome.

26:09

That's that's great for those guys.

But yeah, she's pretty sketched out by it, so it's a loud poster.

I wanted to put it right there behind you, Jared, which would be in your shot for the podcast here for the video.

Put it in there.

Sarah doesn't like it there because it's too close to the TV and then people would actually see it.

26:25

She's also not a horror film fan.

I'm a horror film fan, so.

You're not.

You're not a horror film.

That's not what your desire is, but but you just mentioned niching, right?

So not to put yourself in a box, but what do you, what do you want to be seen as moving forward in, in the in the professional industry?

26:48

That stuff, Because I admire your horror work.

All your work, really.

Well, I think one of my issues with not being put in a box and then.

Saying that is important to Niche.

I'll tell you, I don't want to be a walking contradiction.

27:04

I'm not trying to contradict what I say, right?

But if I could stay broad with that question, I'd like to just continue to grow to be a better creative mind, right?

So even if I show up on a horror set or a live event or anything else.

27:27

My experience and what I bring the table would be sought after just because of who I am, what I've done.

So that's kind of my political way of answering the question without answering the question.

I just, I just want to be that creative mind that can be an asset on any location.

27:44

So I I've watched a few other creators and and I I firmly believe that for some people like you that this totally works because your brand is not core film director.

I know I joke with you about that lot.

Your brand is not live broadcast your niche and your brand is you.

28:04

You are the niche in the brand because of the talents and the traits that you bring to the table and and you mentioned you know you like the creative side of things.

One of the things that I admire most about you is your creativity and the writing and the directing of of shorts, of scripts of of what have you in the creative niche.

28:22

At least you are the brand, You are the niche, which is cool because that's totally acceptable there.

There are a select few of people who can say that they are that, and I believe you're one of those people.

I think it's awesome too because obviously you run not just media, we we're motion creative media, so two different entities.

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But like we mentioned on other episodes, collaboration, community, those things are really, really important.

What's the quote?

Collaboration.

Not competition.

Right, but it.

Collaboration happens.

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Competition happens, Collaboration happens at the top, and then competition is a race to the bottom.

There you go.

So but like when we do get together and whether it's a spec project like this T spec that we I'm I'm we're he's dead set on finishing.

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That we're going to put that out.

I don't care.

People need to see that.

Jared does bring that up a lot.

We had a lot of fun on that shoot.

I was watching the BTS the other day.

I was going through an old hard drive and I stumbled upon that folder and I was like the BTS was great.

We never finish that piece anyway, so we need to finish that piece.

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But what I'm ultimately getting at it goes back to your first point about perspective.

We are three individuals, right?

And there are some similarities and overlaps in the way that we approach things, but there are also massive differences.

And so you get 3 perspectives to any problem that we're trying to solve on set on the fly.

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And so I think that's really important and.

Also speaks to the importance of community and collaboration.

What I think speaking just of us three working together specifically, I know right off the top a great example of how we fill gaps with each other.

You are the story writer, the director head, the guy for that.

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I, for one reason or another, gravitate more towards the picture side of things.

So I can take what you have in your head and most of the time dial in a picture version of that.

He can do that as well.

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But where I think your strength also comes in, and this is something that I don't have, is you are the one who's constantly trying to fill the voids in like the story.

It's like if there is a place where we're like where should we go next with the story.

You're usually a pretty good question asker to get the story guide to say, oh easy, we can do it this way.

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Whereas my brain's over here like guys, as soon as y'all figure that out, I'm going to lay it down on the picture side.

I'm going to hear record and we're going to light it and and I'm going to hit it on the picture side.

So just right off the Dome, that is an example in my brain that comes to mind very quickly of how US three collaboratively solve problems.

31:03

I would agree with that, would you say?

I would like to hear it from you, but like Garrett said, I I would also echo that I think so.

Like if you perfect world if we had a set.

What role do you fit most comfortably and naturally?

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Don't box yourself in though.

I mean, that's not boxing yourself in.

I think you have to do.

I really do.

I think that's important.

That's good.

I think you have to do a little bit of everything before you realize A what you're good at and B what you enjoy doing.

I agree with that.

Because, I mean, you may not be a good camera operator, but you might be a great director or you might be, I mean, so yeah, I'm just, I'm curious from your point perspective, there's the B word.

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What What do you enjoy?

What do you get the most satisfaction out of?

Yeah, I I think part, since I didn't really come from this industry.

I came from all sorts of different backgrounds and then got into was thrown into it on my first video production cake which is in the broadcast space.

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And I was.

I just drove a truck to a presidential debate.

That was my first job, and it was a it was easy.

You're giving yourself away now.

Was that a big, I'd say we're getting too much canceled.

No, no, no, I didn't mean that.

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I meant more so I got thrown into the world.

So driving the truck, that truck turned into, hey, why don't you learn some of the gear on the truck?

And hey, why don't you stay at this debate and keep track of the gear.

And then I became that guy's full time shop guy.

Just kind of do whatever guy and that do whatever job accelerated me through this industry because I did whatever.

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I learned whatever.

And then I started.

After 5:00 came around, I would tinker with cameras and start.

That's where I found the niche of what I'd like to do.

And maybe more post production than live production, right?

So hold on, I'm losing track of what the question was.

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So I go on a set, yes.

So let's say we're doing what are you enjoying next week?

What?

What role do you get the most satisfaction out of?

So the reason I brought that up was because I came from.

I never play with a camera, right?

One of my favorite things is the communication side to.

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Client and translating that to us, right.

So because there are gaps, there are some gaps.

Yeah, there are some gaps.

Like a project management role?

Yeah, and and then and then when we're on set, I I really do enjoy directing.

Maybe everyone enjoys that because it it is the one that is right after the title slide.

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Right title and then everybody gets that credit.

I actually don't like directing.

I personally don't like directing either, which is weird because we all have.

Lay it on to you.

I really do.

Yeah.

Right.

I do know that, Yeah.

I think you're good at it.

I would say that I.

Seek the fame is what I'm You want the credit.

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I want the credit.

So you like to direct?

I really I I think to answer that question, I really do like that role.

Because the director's kind of overseeing everything.

They're communicating with the DP, the director of photography, who is the picture taker, essentially.

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They're communicating with all the other people on staff or on set.

So, yeah, I think that makes sense.

Yeah, that makes.

Sense that that's art department.

I I would honestly without hearing it from you, I would have said that as well.

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I would have answered that for you as well.

For sure.

You're a good director.

I tried to give a little background so it comes off a little more humble than just saying I like direct I.

Like to be and George.

You've done a lot of different things, so you have different perspectives.

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And again, I think you really have to do a bunch of different things before you realize what you're good at.

And where you can provide the most value.

And yeah, I don't think that's.

I don't think you should feel bad about that.

I think that's awesome.

It's not, and I know you don't feel bad about it, but.

I think or anything or braggadocious or anything like that.

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I just, I think that's that's yeah that's where you provide the most value that is naturally.

That's really strong.

Let's not say you can't do other things just like.

I mean, there are tons of people on set that can do a lot of different things, but they're there to do that thing because that's where they provide the most value.

That's sweet.

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I dig it, I dig it.

Naturally, you have fallen into that place of being a director, and I think it's because you have all those perspectives.

For the listeners though, because I do want to apply this, I think this is a very powerful and profound thought that I want our listeners and our audience to chew on.

35:32

Chop it up.

As I say, how can in our daily lives, our work lives, our relationships, How does taking a step back and maybe looking at those other perspectives, how can we apply that?

And what do you think the difference is when when people do consider other, other perspectives?

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Because sometimes I'm bad at that, sometimes I only think of my own thoughts, motivations and reasons.

But what?

What does it do?

What is the power in maybe looking at other perspectives?

Man, from a business point of view, I think thinking outside the box is going to provide outside the box solutions, right?

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And you're going to reach new needs, fill new needs that you wouldn't have before because you thought differently.

From a human personal perspective, this is faith and frames, right?

I've sat in a lot of church services where I sit there and I think, man, how would how would someone who has no clue what this pastor is talking about, right, take what he's saying.

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I grew up in church, so I know all the churchy words, but the guy that just walked in today?

Yeah, some of those words that are like.

What?

What does that mean?

So how is he going to take that?

So for me, how can I and how can our listeners shift their perspective to maybe love that person a little bit better and maybe serve that client a little bit better just by thinking outside the box and looking for needs and finding ways to fill them?

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Yeah, I I think our preacher he, he makes a pretty good example And and I try to keep this in mind like when we're praying with the kids at night or at dinner time, you know, for the folks who do step into the church for the first time, who maybe don't have a background in church.

You know I was raised in church.

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You are, you are.

We understand the lingo at times.

So to speak.

But also the lingo can be confusing, you know, You hear these very eloquent prayers from people sometimes.

Oh Lord thy God.

I was so poetic.

It's very poetic.

I mean, they're they can.

Oh my God.

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Prayed with I mean when I and awestruck wonder like there's there's all kinds of, like eloquent prayers that are said.

But my favorite prayers, Oh yeah, are the ones for my kids, because it's so simple.

They understand.

It your dad on the on the road back from Nashville, I heard a phone call because it was your birthday.

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Yes, we've referenced that multiple times.

Right.

We.

We sang it, many established.

Lisa, was it, lest I remind?

You, lest I remind you now you've been reminded, yes, he he was saying that he didn't feel good, right?

And he specifically said, have Cole pray for me that your son because I know his prayers are getting there.

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Yes.

Yeah.

I don't know.

They don't have to be.

They don't have to be special like super written out essay sermons some sometimes.

And and our, our preacher John says this a lot, who I can't wait to have as a guest.

Sometimes a prayer is as simple as one word help.

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And he hears that.

The Lord hears that.

Oh, yeah, you know.

And so to me that that that's a great reminder for me too, because we all want to sound nice and churchy when we're praying in front of the church.

Oh, yeah.

But at the end of the day, like that, that different perspective for someone who's there that day for the first time, hearing a human just talk in a conversational way because.

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At the end of the day, that's what it is.

It is conversation's a relationship and and Dad actually held Cole accountable to that and actually Cole was the one who reached out to dad to say prayed for you Peppo.

There you go.

So simple.

So simple.

So anyways perspectives thank thank you thank you for that perspective here on the podcast today I see what you did there here on Faith and frames we're.

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Going to have you back.

Don't worry.

I think we'll have you back if you'll come back.

And if we don't get canceled in between, yeah.

That's true.

I had fun.

You guys are great.

You guys are pros.

I don't know how I.

Got a little.

I need a little more practice.

I don't know.

But you guys, we try.

We try hard.

I'm just here.

Certainly try.

Jared, can you give our listeners a call to action really quickly and then we'll close this thing out because we we do enjoy some feedback.

39:34

Oh my gosh.

We enjoy feedback, good and bad, good and bad.

Honestly, honestly, some of the best feedback I've gotten in life has been not good feedback because at that point it causes you to make change, which means they're not just words.

Oh, I don't know what this counters up to now, but by George, it's it's certainly double digits.

39:56

It's looking like a Lakers game anyways.

Yeah, so if you guys could, on most of the platforms, there are review options.

If you guys could, if you've enjoyed it or if you haven't enjoyed it, leave us a review.

I know at least on the Apple podcast platform, there are stars, no different than ratings on anything else.

40:17

So if you could, if you could rate US, maybe leave this review.

And here's the other thing that we've mentioned multiple times, that we want to be a light and that can be in more ways than one.

If, if you think someone in your life could benefit from hearing this, yeah, share it, share it to him, reach out, send us a message, whatever however we can be of service.

40:41

That's ultimately what I want to do.

Yes.

And in the review section specifically, though, in the good old fashioned American way, we need stars and bars, we need star ratings, and we need bars of reviews.

See what you did there?

And with that, I think we can finally say goodbye today.

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Yeah, I'm bad at it.

You start us.

Thanks for stopping by faith and frames in our living room.

Den now this is our living room.

Ah, Dang it.

Right, I was talking physically.

I know.

So you're.

Metaphysical right now.

OK, we're shooting in the den, but we're talking from to you from our living room.

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Our living room.

Thank you for that clarity.

There you go for that perspective.

I see what you did there.

All right.

Let's just say it.

All right.

We'll see you later.

See you.

Bye.

Catch you on the next one, Deuces.