Episode 48 - Why you SHOULD Switch to Davinci REsolve for your Video Editing

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got my glasses on now I can see now you can see to talk now I can see to talk it's kind of like when you're driving

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and you got to turn the radio down to back up yeah same concept I don't have to do it to back up if I get in a city

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oh yeah like where I'm really unfamiliar and I'm like okay I know there are like some congested exits coming up yeah volume down volume down so that I I

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cannot see a thing I can see better let me roll this volume down there's no scientific explanation to

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that but I can speak from experience I I it's better if I turn that down I can I

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I can visualize more so I guess it's more of a concentration thing I was going to say I may be crazy but I think they're actually is a

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scientific uh explanation slash research to support that interesting uh quote me

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people medical medical folks out there if you're listening don't sue me but maybe you can help me confirm or deny

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that statement all I know is is like when I get into Nashville roll it down even if I've been through this Transit a

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million times to Vanderbilt I still get into those congested areas I like the music to go down about 10 notches yeah

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so that I can be a better driver music down 10 notches you got to turn the kids down too because they're

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always shut up shut up stop talking stop talking actually we don't say shut up I'm sorry kids if you're listening we don't say that word we don't we say uh

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hush we say hush a lot and um too loud yeah too loud my kids called me out on

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an episode because I said the s word one time so well you told your friend to shut up we absolutely do not say that

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word to people hey so speaking about so so that kind of brings you to the point speaking about saying words to people uh

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so the other day we were on set with our buddy Kyle Kyle Benjamin KY Benjamin TV um just hit him with the threads

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handle on a uh on a production and he brought us in so we were just uh Hired

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Guns and and here to help solve any problem that we could that day hey on

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lunch or something or another we got to talking about how we see things in

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professional like TV movie Netflix all errors right we see that pass through

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pass through and a lot of times he goes yeah you'll notice sometimes where like uh on a commercial or whatever you'll

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see like where someone didn't stretch the adjustment layer the clip wasn't color graded it wasn't color graded for

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like three frames or something and I I I kind of threw my little jab in there I was like um guess what you don't have to

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worry about Kyle you were in Da Vinci no such thing as an adjustment layer

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adjustment well I suppose you could call it that way in Da Vinci that that functionality is there oh yeah it is but

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you don't have to you don't have to nor do I want to because it's note-based so what we're going to chat about is why we

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made the switch to Da Vinci MH and maybe convince you to give that a try yourself

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I'll spoiler alert I absolutely think you should but we'll get into that here in a second yeah um also

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it's been a bit of a challenge for us to find editors yeah because of the

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workflow situation a lot of people do still edit in Premier Pro I think there's a plethora of reasons why scared

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to try something new uh a lot of aftermarket support just years of

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experience under the Adobe suite Adobe offers pretty good deals for

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schools administrations true companies things like that so but I say all that to say difficult for us to find like

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editors to help us with workload because it's like do you what do you edit in right and we'll ask them they're like oh I go in Premier

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like hurts hurts little it hurts because like if there was anything that we needed to try and fix or

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change we would then have to revert back to the dreaded Premier Pro

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gag but if you Ed in Vinci I ain't got to worry about that shares the project file and we're

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absolutely meet and taters get us to the meet and taters we want to convince you today to switch to D Vinci resolve give

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you some reasons as to why we have not because we like get any sort of Kickbacks honestly I'm just trying to save you some heartache trying to save

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you some heartache but I'm not gonna I'm not g to like discount the fact that if black magic design wants to give me

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Kickbacks I'll take them I'll take but as of today as of recording this we don't have it's not sponsored this is

Backstory as to why we switched to Davinci Resolve

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literally just our uh our history uh and where we currently land uh in the da

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Vinci in the D world Hit Me With A Reason well truthfully like I'll just go

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ahead and quickly recap for me yeah I started editing video in iMovie yeah on

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my phone yeah on my phone because I didn't have a laptop worth of diddly d right then I started to do a little bit

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of video work uh and I took to Google to

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find editing software editing software I think they probably still

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have the biggest market share but and behold what came up was Premier Pro uh

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so I had a I had a Windows PC M which meant Final Cut was out yep so I ended

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up in premere learned Premiere got pretty decent at it got familiar with

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the shortcuts got got to uh got into the workflow all those things edited in it for years yeah I don't remember the

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exact project or the exact light bulb SLT turning moment

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but I remember getting incredibly frustrated with just

Frustrations with Premiere Pro

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crashes the overall clunkiness um

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and it's partly my fault but I also never really enjoyed

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the auto saave feature I still hate it it's just not as

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frequent enough and I think you can change the frequency in which it Autos saves but all that to say there were

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several driving factors that made me willing to give another software a try

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yeah um I did at this point have a Mac M um

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but never really like thought Final Cut was the move no I didn't think there

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were any upgrades other than it probably is a performance upgrade in some cases because it would have been optimized for

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ma it's optimized for Mac but the big thing for me I was sick of the crashings uh sick of the clunkiness and just the

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overall just I've always felt like was very cluttered even if you cleaned up your personal work space all those

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things yeah the UI is very archaic in nature very blocky it is um and

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so again all those things just kind of came to a head for me I was like I'm

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willing to try something else so again the big players Final Cut Pro uh Premier

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Pro and D Vinci and da Vinci resolve I was like I keep I keep hearing these people talk about how like powerful the

Why Davinci Resolve

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coloring as is uh with in Vinci don't hear Too Many people talk about the editing

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capabilities but color you know what this seems like an upgrade we'll give it a whirl give it a whirl also here's

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another very cool as of today factoid in favor of DCI it is a onetime fee yes it

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is a one time fee that's a bonus reason I think it's $299 for stud uh also they've got a free

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version you do lose some features you get you get 80% of the way there that you don't have within or that you miss

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out by not having the studio version but you can try it for free try before you buy as they say yeah anyways I wanted to

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to give something else a try thought it's got to be better MH made the

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switch uh made the purchase of Da Vinci resolve studio and I think that was

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about four years ago maybe now three four years ago and I'm not looked back yeah um so yeah that was kind of why I

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ultimately was willing to give it a go and ultimately gave it a go and have not looked back yeah I'm pretty simple I I

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actually and I told you wrong off camera I actually also started an iMovie because I did have a Mac desktop at the

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time okay so it was stock on that but as far as my first uh non stock uh sure

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editing software I started in Da Vinci way back when it was Da Vinci 13 or 14 at the time yeah um and really and

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truthfully for me it was the color grading aspect that that has been one of my favorite things since day one about

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video color grading was color grading and I had addict

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anyway back then literally researching like what the best color grading

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software and it was Vinci back in the day so started there moved to premiere for a while and and the reason I had

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moved to Premiere was the very first video project that you and I did together yeah the music video uh I

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remember very vividly coming over to your mother's house because you were still constructing your current house

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still renovating so we were sitting there in your mom's living room on a popup table in premere Pro yeah and you

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had Premiere and I knew that we'd be doing video together so I was like okay I got to get premere now yeah easy to share projects easy to share projects so

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that was the reason that I had moved to Premiere and then you and I both came you only had the free version of Da

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Vinci before corre I had started with the the free version I started with the free version which again gives you about 80% functionality um but you convinced

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me to switch to Premier Pro for project sharing purposes things like that and then we ultimately decided to come back to Da Vinci at the same time because at

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that point in time we were a company yeah so so yeah sick of the crashes sick of the clunkiness and if you were not a

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compulsive saver and that uh dreaded I think it's like a 20 minute by default

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MH it only Auto saves every 20 minutes again can't necessarily fault

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the software for that I should have been saving but the fact of the matter is is a lot of times one of the things you forget to do is save and so you could

Premiere Pro Crashes too much, and You Lose WORK

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potentially lose 19 minutes of work if it crashes which is inevitable that's

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that's literally reason number one why we made the switch was crashes yeah Premier has issues in Adobe if you're

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listening it's pretty unstable it may be better now I've not touched the software in like two three years three four years now I use it I use it pretty regularly

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still for certain projects and not because I want to yeah um but it it still has problems crashing well I'll

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say this I'm not going to tell you that da Vinci doesn't crash or that it doesn't sometimes have bugs and and

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slowdowns but I will tell this they are far less frequent far less frequent I I think in our in our in our stint with

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the Vinci ever since coming back um I can count on one hand how many times

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it's crashed and that's been in four years now yeah so it is more stable yeah

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and the big thing where a lot of people uh a lot of people like are maybe hesitant to give it a go is they've

1 Reason why People Hesitate to try Davinci Resolve - NODES

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heard of this node-based yeah workflow which I'll be honest with you

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specifically with coloring though well it's also infusion which is their After Effects replacement but the whole point

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is is like node based node Bas node based that's a it's a bit of a confusing

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thing until you wrap your head around it and I'll be I was I was confused I was like wait a second why would you why

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would you break those nodes up well you don't have to but if you go to like

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troubleshoot or fix certain aspects it's nice when they're separated uh into

Why Nodes are FAR BETTER than Adjustment Layer - For Coloring

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different nodes for instance like with color grading now from from like here on out my base color grading workflow even

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for like simple stuff is going to have probably a minimum of six nodes and I'm

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pretty adamant in the sense of I'm only going to do one thing on this node I'm going to adjust the white balance on

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this node your conversion on its own node and you can compartmentalize your edit which is

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very handy when you go to say correct uh like shot match with white

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balance or your printer lights or whatever it's like I have a printer light no node which is basically just

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your offset but I have that's where I go and make that adjustment because I've already got the exposure where I want it

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I don't want to be tweaking with that so I just want to introduce red or take blue away take yellow away whatever

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first switch node base can be confusing but I'm telling you once that light bulb goes off I love

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it like forget layer based which was that which was what Kyle was mentioning

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he's like look I had or not had I can see on projects where people didn't to stret it over didn't get that adjustment

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layer just ever so stretched across and so like three frames were ungraded at that point that doesn't happen with the

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Vinci right in the color space right in the color grading tab so the color

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grading we could literally talk for hours on howp how how and why it is

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superior yeah um Hollywood movies are graded with the

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VCI resolve have been colored in the VCI resolve for a long time they've forever been a standard I was going to say

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they're they're they're a standard when it comes to color grading and in Black Magic design they've done a great job

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with even though it is a Hollywood professional tool yeah the way that they've set it up specifically in the

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color tab because as far as like the editing tab goes like it's a standard nonlinear editor pretty much the same

Davinci Resolve is User Friendly - Watch YouTube Tutorials If you're Stuck

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once you get keyboard shortcut set up no different than any other program but the color tab specifically even though it's

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a Hollywood tool they've made it so into it that idiots like myself can figure out how to color grade uh and here's the

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really really really cool thing uh there are some really good really good resources for free on

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YouTube even um on color grading based for color grading and explaining like

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why you should separate each adjustment out into a different node which would basically I guess to put it different

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adjustment layers yeah so like my six node tree you'd have six adjustment layers on your editing thing up your

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timeline GS up your timeline so on the edit page

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which is where you do all of your editing

The Edit Page in Davinci is cleaner and easier to work with because of Color Nodes

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you've got your you're going to make your Cuts you're going to do any effects uh your inspector and key Framing and

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all that stuff that's done in the edit that's where you actually piece together your story your story it's where your audio and all that goes it's your it's

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your familiar linear side of things it's a much cleaner look because each clip

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doesn't have three four five adjustment layers a top it right so because it's got separated into its own workspace its

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own page its own tab within the software you you have a million adjustment layers you've now got a much cleaner uh

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interface to work and do your actual editing yeah you've got your video clip your audio clip and then basically titling titling uh maybe you throw

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b-roll top it like I mean it's just Clips audios and titles that it's very it's very uh stripped down

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so the really cool thing too um and I think it's kind of confusing to a lot of people that maybe came from uh an adobe

Editing/Color Grading/Composites/Audio ALL under 1 hood in Davinci Resolve

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workflow is everything is under one Hood now I'll be honest with you there are

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two tabs at the beginning and they've kind of they've literally got it left to right we read left to right here in

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America um but you could start with your import

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and that's where you do your media I think they call it media bin or I don't know yeah I think it's the media tab

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media tab right it's that very first one that's where you bring all of your project uh pieces and and footage in

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your folders make your folders you then move right one which is to the cut tab

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which is going to look very similar to the edit tab the edit tab that's where you can do a lot of your initial C you

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can cut your head cut your tail all those things and then you can have access to uh a lot more of your effects

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and your variables and and the transition that's when you end up in the edit tab it's got a pretty good workflow

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which you you work backwards I've noticed uh you I'll say this though I skip to page three I do all my import

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yeah my coling my editing and the edit tab because you can do all three but if you don't want to if you want to do it

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progressively they've got that laid out for you but everything is under one Hood to

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include uh compositions that's under the fusion tab which is basically their version of a effects you've got the

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color tab which is where all of this powerful color grading takes place then Fair lot audio Fair lot audio is kind of

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like I think it's Adobe Audition yeah it's like audition so Adobe has different programs for these things that you have to go in and out of while

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you're editing in Premiere black magic defin you resolve has it all under one Hood you then have an export page so I

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love the fact that everything is under one Hood yeah so I don't have to hit

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right click open and after effects I don't have to open an audition I just it's right there same I mean it's it's

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so it's so nice to be able to bot back and forth and it's less of an issue on the color side but like I can't tell you

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the number of times where I've been almost I'm I'm giv my last pass through and I'm like oh I need to take some red

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out of that shot quickly go to the color Tab and then just copy and paste to each clip so all your settings are there I

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love and it it's kind of clunky at first until you get used to it it's kind of daunting to see it all but I love the

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fact that it's all under one Hood yeah agreed it's very helpful

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um and so the overall just user interface kind of kind of coincides with

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everything being under one Hood but just just the physical look and I'm going to get picky here I'm talking like I'm

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talking even down to rounded edges rounded edges it's like it it does not

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look as though it's and this does not affect the performance or make it a

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better edit like I'm not saying that just a preference I like the the more

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modern yeah rounded edges rounded edges of the clips of of of just I like the

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user interface way better yeah in Vinci now one thing that I'll say this I I

Importing your Keyboard Shortcuts from Premiere Pro into Davinci Resolve to save you time

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started to get really proficient with keyboard shortcuts yeah and I had several that I'd customized and they

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were crucial to my workflow in Premier yeah in Premier right my q and my w which is uh Ripple trim Ripple trim to

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the right Ripple trim to the left but again you can import those settings you can and that helped I'll be honest with

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you it took it took there was there was a learning curve on I switched over and if you decide to do this after watching

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us uh and listening to us you're going to have a learning curve yeah um but I

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will say this I curbed that curve a lot

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by nailing my keyboard shortcuts once I got my keyboard shortcuts to mirror BAS basically my

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Premier PR keyboard everything else was just layout and like okay instead of

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instead of I think they call it the effects tab or something in Premier it's that top left effect effect controls tab

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yeah you just okay you got the inspector and it's over here on the top right y

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um uh so the way that it key frames is just a little bit different um but once

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you learn all those things the transition is is is very

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seamless yeah well specifically with like key frames too one important thing is uh like when it comes to masking if

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you do any masking in your videos um that's also done mostly in your well

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actually almost all of it's done in your color tab it's like if I want to put a radial mask over you know my subject or

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if I want to do the magic mask which automatically finds my subject for me um

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I can track that in the color Tab versus having to individually key frame that mask like you have to do in Premiere

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yeah um which is just mind mind numbing yeah well so I I think too one of the

3rd Party Plugins/effects/transitions support in Davinci Resolve

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hesitations for a lot of people is they may have a lot of third party plugins or tools and stuff like that and and here's

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the thing Premier has been the staple for a long time so there are there's more third party support and that's in

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the sense of like plugins and transition packs that you've bought and all these things think that's changing a lot we've

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got a lot of good stuff for Da Vinci right now it is starting to change and people are starting to create more for Da Vinci specifically motion VFX we're

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big fans of # notsponsored yeah um we've we've used motion VFX for a long time

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now their title packs are great they have good transitions they have overlays yes I think they even have uh they have

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looks they have Luts and stuff oh really yeah like motion VFX they've got it all

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basically for D Vinci users okay yeah I didn't I didn't realize they had looks

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now yep that's interesting yep but I say all that to say that is that was definitely something that I couldn't

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argue against yeah they're was less by far text packs and transition

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packs and and third party plugins and support that worked in N Vinci so I Premier had that market for sure is

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starting to change uh and I just think that's going to continue to change you've seen some

Great teaching resources on Davinci Resolve

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I've seen some really big well in the YouTube space I've seen some really big creators make the switch Sam CER Sam CER

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is big like he even has I think a couple courses now he does he does and he he

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would be a great one to learn from uh uh yeah Pete Pete himself says that he kind

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of still toys in Premier he does but his editor Kirk KK edits in Da Vinci um

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you've got great people like a great resource on just kind of all things Da

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Vinci is Casey Ferris yeah Casey Ferris is good if you want coloring kazy KY

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wakas kazy yeah Waz KY Hollywood colorist um don't get disappointed when

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you see his uh desk setup and he's got the massive panel and you're like oh this I just have he's got the dab burn

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racing gloves too do you ever notice how when he's editing he uses the gloves I have a keyboard yeah uh keyboard and

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mouse he has the full panel I forget what it's called what da Vinci calls it but say all that to say a wealth of

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knowledge and he doesn't get keep like yeah watch his stuff if you want to learn anything he's a Hollywood commercial editor or colorist I mean um

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but yeah so so once I got my keyboard shortcuts mhm and once I kind of

If you want to switch, give yourself at least a month before you give up on Davinci

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learned okay Premier calls this this da Vinci calls this this yeah just

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different terminology different terminology um yeah I have not looked back at all and I I

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would I know people have got to be frustrated with their Premier workflow

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yeah I've heard people talk about it like I and I'm sitting here thinking dude just switch just just try it switch

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just try it uh would go out on Lim so far as to say that the free version of Da Vinci is superior to Premiere in my

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opinion I haven't used the pre the free one uh ever really again 80% functionality and it's free 99 now I

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think some of the big features you don't get uh I don't think you get noise reduction you don't get noise reduction which D Vinci's noise reduction is

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pretty good it's very taxing on your machine but it's solid it's good you also can't import certain um uh F types

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like for whatever reason our Panasonics I wonder if we were to shoot MP4s if it would but anyways good we

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shoot the quick time mov uh you also I don't think get stabilization you don't

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get stabilization you also don't get plugin support because I know one of the plugins that we use is dehancer don't yeah you don't get plugin support

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with the free version either but either way all that said I still think it's better than Premiere I think probably

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one of the bigger things is just the overall speed yeah I don't notice like for instance and part of it might have

The Overall Speed of Davinci Resolve is much faster than Premiere - Editing/Effects/Exports

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been well actually no I take that back I had a I had built a machine m a PC I say

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we built identical PCS and in Premiere with certain cameras I would

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still have to drop the playback uh resolution or quality whatever it call to like a quarter otherwise you're

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getting choppy playback it wouldn't playback it was really prominent with Drone footage with DJI stuff which is it

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points to the camera uh the way that their codec works right it's it's a DJI issue but it's

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also a premier issue because again going over to D Vinci I never have to drop resolution ever I don't even know how to

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do that I don't even have to drop like Luts or transitions or anything Y in Da

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Vinci when it comes to playback the only thing on playback that I I will struggle with is uh again sometimes overlays D

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noiser oh yeah the D noise feature is very taxing it is so what I would base

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color grades and stuff fine full playback absolutely no problem so just the overall speed all the way all the

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way to the export tab yes oh my gosh I don't have any scientific data for this

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and you can you know say well this is just hearsay maybe actually know what

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try it for yourself I don't have any scientific like side by side same projects comparisons on exports yeah um

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but Da Vinci exports really quick um I can give you semi-scientific examples uh

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this podcast for example I do still edit in premere mainly for the audio uh reasons I I I do like a lot of their

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audio features when it comes to editing um anyways a 30 minute episode of this

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podcast with Premiere normally takes between an hour and an hour and 20 minutes to export really yes so from the

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time you get your export settings export to the time it's finished usually about an hour to an

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hour and 15 or a 30 minute 30 minute episode interesting that's pretty D Vinci in Da Vinci I would dare say and

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I've not edited in D Vinci for the podcast specifically um since I think episode one or two um but if I remember

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correctly and I have no problem testing this for anyone who wants to know um I'm pretty sure that same export would be

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anywhere between like 15 to 17 minutes o so it's more

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than double it's like yeah that's like a quarter of the time yeah oh well I

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didn't realize it was that uh that much disparity between the two yeah um I don't know how and maybe it's because Da

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Vinci now especially for us is optimized for mac and we edit on M1 chip Max um I

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thought Premier had uh one of those encoder options though like you could uh yeah but they I know they have stuff for

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like Nvidia uh what not they do but I still I mean I don't export the podcast

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in like a this massive massive file structure I mean I do it in h264 MP4 and the bit rate I said is

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between 2 and 40 which is not a lot no that means the low end of your bit rate

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is 2 megabits per second so 264 is a slightly larger container than it is slightly larger it is slightly larger

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and I'm doing MP4 instead of 265 mov yeah okay well I mean all that to say

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but from start to finish export time crapp it is speedier you don't have the playback issues um and again I just I I

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I know that these exports are faster yeah which it makes a difference it makes a big

Exports may be the biggest time saver with Davinci Resolve

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difference like if if I know my machine's tied up for the next hour that's less that I can get done yeah

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versus if I've only got you know 15 20 minutes 30 minutes worst case scenario or here's here's the worst worst worst

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case scenario uh you export something and this happens to me a lot especially

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on my YouTube channel yeah and I noticed that I've made a mistake and I noticed that I didn't toggle that audio effect

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back on or something so now I get to reex for a whole another hour after I

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fix that problem well not inin it's not but yes in Premiere I I constantly have to make two exports within a 10minute

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period because Overlook something and I'm like oh my gosh there's been a couple of times where I've gotten a

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couple of our longer episodes post export and had to make a correction and that hurts the next

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couple of hours you're just hating yourself so again don't know what they're doing on the speed side the black magic is they don't call them

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black magic for nothing hey Shameless plug here too

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we have licenses now because we have their cameras MH and you talk about

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black magic yeah I don't know what I have a soft spot for them I don't know

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what they do yeah and the

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$2500 camera body mhm they're magical it is magical hey

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I'll give you I'll give you an even better salesman pitch here you can get a free free d Vinci resolve license with

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the purchase of one of those $2500 okay well actually you get two

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seats with that yeah you get two seats okay so you can get two licenses for free with a purchase of $2,500 I mean

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you know air quotes around free but technically the license is $299 so I'm just saying you you're not having to pay

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that on top of I'm just saying it's free with purchase for $2500 bang for so bang

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for buck they have their quirks yeah I like them but man the pockets and

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we have the pocket 6K Pros right this goes even back to the pocket 4ks I saw I think the still great last year's

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Sundance lineup yeah somebody shot those on the POA 4K there were two entities

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that made the finalist or what the final P4 case which I don't know when those cameras were released uh one of my

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favorite YouTubers now baros just uh released a new YouTube video shooting on the OG pocket the little tiny guy the

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little 1080 guy yeah so the 4K specifically and it's a super 16 sensor it's not even 35 or micro 43 the 4K

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micro 43 the OG is a super 16 so that's smaller than micro 43s yeah oh wow oh

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yeah wow yeah so now even more incredible what you're able to do with that anyways um denture resolve really

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no quirks um yeah I've been very very satisfied in our time with the Venture

Final Thoughts

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resolve as an editor y absolutely so if you are like uh former Jared former

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Garett and you are just frustrated and you're thinking to yourself there's got to be something out

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there I wonder if there's something better there is listen try it give it a whirl give it a whirl give it a I I I

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think I think you'll be happy uh I really do I think you good old fashioned College try think you'll be happy now

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you I don't think you can give it like a you can't just dabble like like a one

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day like I tried it dip a pinky and I tried it no you got to give yourself give yourself a week two weeks depends

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on how much you edit right if you're if you're a like an editor by trade yeah I think in a week you could a couple days

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yeah two three days you might have enough experience to like if you edit every now and then I would say give yourself 30 days yeah give yourself 30 I

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don't think you'll be disappointed I don't think you will either I don't think you'll be disappointed so anyway that's our uh that's our plea I'll tell

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you some things that we wouldn't or I'll have you give us some things that we wouldn't be disappointed in from our audience uh yeah trying to vent you

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resolve uh no give us uh review yeah riew feedback stars and bars any sort of

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feedback good or bad we are giv we gave Da Vinci resolve feedback here in this episode and that's basically what we're

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asking for you actually I do have a a call to action here oh wow I want to know what your favorite features of Da

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Vinci are or your favorite features in Premiere Pro yeah well and I guess more

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importantly I want to know what you're editing in for all of our listeners out there who are editing what are you editing in and why yeah there we go put

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you people are going to say premere and it's because it's what I started in and I'm just too familiar with it sure we'll take that but I want to know in below

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comments below let us know with that Jared here's the hard part yeah uh

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well we'll catch you guys in the next one I didn't make that very hard y'all have a good

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see y'all later